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Ableton, the company I work for, are based in Berlin and are looking for Python devs: http://www.ableton.com/jobs http://www.ableton.com/jobs It's a really nice

Ableton, the company I work for, are based in Berlin and are looking for Python devs: http://www.ableton.com/jobs http://www.ableton.com/jobs It's a really nice place to work, and the pay is OK for Berlin. Great summary of cost of living and tech scene from maxklein. You can live very cheaply here, if you work at it. Some bars serve a half-litre of beer for 1€, some reasonable apartments can be got for 120€ a month if you can live with coal-fired heating. The other tech company I know well is SoundCloud. They are great. They are mostly Ruby-based, but they're expanding the technology they use rapidly at the moment, so they might be flexible. Good luck: Berlin is a fantastic place to live.

cageface 16y ago
Ableton seems like it would be a great place to work. Enabling creative people appeals to me a lot more than putting yet another spin on social networking.
- deets 16y ago
  The Python jobs are web-related only though. While Python is used inside Live itself, it's not enough to justify a pure-Python coder position for that. But the web-team is large enough to also offer more back-end related work, which is the reason we advertise Python-developers instead of Web-developers only. I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end.
  - cageface 16y ago
    I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end. I guess this is unavoidable in just about any web development job these days but at least the context is a little more intrinsically interesting at Ableton. At least to me.
fylox 16y ago
Cubase user here cough Anyway I'd imagine that working for Ableton is fairly cool. Although I am not qualified enough for such a position I am curious what requirements they have. I check your link and they ask for at least 2 years of experience. Is that "all" ? As a CS drop out I can't even provide bachelor's degree. The point I am trying to make is: As far as I know here in Germany employees always ask for degrees. Am I way off? Could I train myself the necessary skills and then work my way up and then some day I'd be qualified enough to work for a company like Ableton?
- deets 16y ago
  I'm the chap responsible for the Python developer hiring at Ableton. To sum it up: I don't give a rats ass for any degrees. I don't even have one myself. We send applicants a programming test. I get these tests, and I assess them without even skimming the CV. Because it would otherwise just skew my observations. If the test convinced me that you can code, you will have a job-interview, via phone or in person depending on if it's feasible to fly you in to Berlin or not. This interview is pure technical, either. If this convinced me that you are a good coder, I will arrange a third interview with the CTO, who has the final say on all employments. I won't spoil the enjoyment of that for you :)
  - brunoc 16y ago
    Ableton Live fanboy here -- You guys are doing a great job. I haven't looked into it lately but what's the status on scripting Live (with Python or whichever language) ? I would kill to have an API I could use to create tracks programmatically.
    - deets 16y ago
      [edit] sorry, re-read your post. You asked for any way, not python specifically. The defined API for interacting with Live is Max For Live. Python is only used internally, and to a limited extend. And for The Bridge, we introduced an XML-based document format, which should be a second option to generate live-sets.
  - 16y ago
radiothom 16y ago
Yep, SoundCloud is great (so is Ableton!). While we are ruby-based at SoundCloud, we are definitely expanding and open to various backgrounds! So definitely visit the jobs page if you're interested: soundcloud.com/jobs. Agree with Mary - Berlin is a fantastic place to live and very affordable in many areas. Great city with a growing start-up scene!
- rdouble 16y ago
  How many vacation days? I have relevant experience for SoundCloud (and also use and like Ableton) but I've recently decided I should probably try to visit my family more often.
  - deets 16y ago
    Around 25, which is common in Germany.
- rb2k_ 16y ago
  This is something that is completely confusing to me. Berlin seems to have a lot of interesting Jobs with "fun" languages (ruby, python, even some scala, ...). Down in the south (Stuttgart), it's all C or Java and most projects seem to be boring on the first look :-/

cageface 16y ago

Ableton seems like it would be a great place to work. Enabling creative people appeals to me a lot more than putting yet another spin on social networking.

deets 16y ago
The Python jobs are web-related only though. While Python is used inside Live itself, it's not enough to justify a pure-Python coder position for that. But the web-team is large enough to also offer more back-end related work, which is the reason we advertise Python-developers instead of Web-developers only. I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end.
- cageface 16y ago
  I fear though that this is not really that much different from another spin on social networking in the end. I guess this is unavoidable in just about any web development job these days but at least the context is a little more intrinsically interesting at Ableton. At least to me.

fylox 16y ago

Cubase user here cough Anyway I'd imagine that working for Ableton is fairly cool. Although I am not qualified enough for such a position I am curious what requirements they have. I check your link and they ask for at least 2 years of experience. Is that "all" ? As a CS drop out I can't even provide bachelor's degree. The point I am trying to make is: As far as I know here in Germany employees always ask for degrees. Am I way off? Could I train myself the necessary skills and then work my way up and then some day I'd be qualified enough to work for a company like Ableton?

deets 16y ago
I'm the chap responsible for the Python developer hiring at Ableton. To sum it up: I don't give a rats ass for any degrees. I don't even have one myself. We send applicants a programming test. I get these tests, and I assess them without even skimming the CV. Because it would otherwise just skew my observations. If the test convinced me that you can code, you will have a job-interview, via phone or in person depending on if it's feasible to fly you in to Berlin or not. This interview is pure technical, either. If this convinced me that you are a good coder, I will arrange a third interview with the CTO, who has the final say on all employments. I won't spoil the enjoyment of that for you :)
- brunoc 16y ago
  Ableton Live fanboy here -- You guys are doing a great job. I haven't looked into it lately but what's the status on scripting Live (with Python or whichever language) ? I would kill to have an API I could use to create tracks programmatically.
  - deets 16y ago
    [edit] sorry, re-read your post. You asked for any way, not python specifically. The defined API for interacting with Live is Max For Live. Python is only used internally, and to a limited extend. And for The Bridge, we introduced an XML-based document format, which should be a second option to generate live-sets.
- 16y ago

radiothom 16y ago

Yep, SoundCloud is great (so is Ableton!). While we are ruby-based at SoundCloud, we are definitely expanding and open to various backgrounds! So definitely visit the jobs page if you're interested: soundcloud.com/jobs. Agree with Mary - Berlin is a fantastic place to live and very affordable in many areas. Great city with a growing start-up scene!

rdouble 16y ago
How many vacation days? I have relevant experience for SoundCloud (and also use and like Ableton) but I've recently decided I should probably try to visit my family more often.
- deets 16y ago
  Around 25, which is common in Germany.
rb2k_ 16y ago
This is something that is completely confusing to me. Berlin seems to have a lot of interesting Jobs with "fun" languages (ruby, python, even some scala, ...). Down in the south (Stuttgart), it's all C or Java and most projects seem to be boring on the first look :-/