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IE usage recently dropped below Chrome usage on Mibbit (Including our widget which is deployed on various non-techy websites). Firefox 55.1% Chrome 20.7%

by axod 16y ago

IE usage recently dropped below Chrome usage on Mibbit (Including our widget which is deployed on various non-techy websites). Firefox 55.1% Chrome 20.7% IE 15.2% Other 4.4% Opera 3.0% Safari 1.6% The time when you have to support IE, for many, is coming to an end. On a related note, I got a phone call from Microsoft adCenter the other day, asking why I hadn't spent any money with them for a year (Different website I run which needs big ad spend). I said "Last time I tried the interface in Chrome, it didn't work". She replied "Ah. Chrome is Google and so it's not compatible". MS never cease to amaze me.

user24 16y ago
> for many Yes, for many sites with a technical audience. But for sites with an older, less technically sophisticated userbase, IE still has the vast majority over other browsers. I hear what you're saying about the widget. But is that downloads? In which case: selection bias. What do the stats look like as far as impressions go on the non-techy sites?
- axod 16y ago
  Those stats combine main client (chat.mibbit.com) with our widget, split roughly 50/50. The widget is used on various websites, gaming, stock trading, dating, etc etc Sure, it's still probably going to be slightly more tech, but I'm guessing there's quite a few other webapps who have similar demographic. It also depends on how 'global' you are. IE usage varies wildly by country.
- ssharp 16y ago
  Here are stats for the University I work at. It's still not a representative sample but does show a different picture. (Current Period): IE 35.01% Firefox 33.32% Safari 15.68% Chrome 14.56% (Current Period - 1 Year): IE 40.61% Firefox 38.79% Safari 12.92% Chrome 4.93%
  - axod 16y ago
    Pretty high Safari usage there. I'm guessing macs are extremely common at the University?
    - ssharp 16y ago
      Probably more so than in the "real world". FWIW, our usage stats on OSX break down to about 2/3 using Safari and 1/3 using Firefox.
      - dev360 16y ago
        You're not trying to say that academia is an imaginary world, are you?
        ssharp 16y ago
        No, but I think it's safe to say that it's off the mean in many areas.
  - mike-cardwell 16y ago
    What country? I suspect figures in Europe are very different from those in the US. European versions of Windows are now required to offer a selection of browsers at install time.
    - ssharp 16y ago
      US
- jeroen 16y ago
  For a car site I run I get the following IE usage over the last couple of years (monthly visits in the 5K range): apr 2007 71.8% oct 2007 74.5% apr 2008 72.0% oct 2008 67.1% apr 2009 67.6% oct 2009 65.6% apr 2010 58.5% oct 2010 61.2% That's still a considerable majority of IE users.
abstractbill 16y ago
Justin.tv is trending the same way, but more slowly - Chrome hasn't caught up with IE yet. Seems like it's just a matter of time now though: Firefox 36.16% IE 35.78% Chrome 19.35% Safari 6.08% Opera 1.85% Other <1%
stuhacking 16y ago
Oh, so Google is to blame? No Microsoft, your adCenter is not compatible with your customer's browser.
- axod 16y ago
  Their attitude was especially surprising, since I'm actually trying to spend money with them.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    "Surprising" is not how I would describe it. In fact, given their own Microsoft-centric view of the tech universe, it's nothing but expected. "Boneheaded", perhaps, would be more appropriate.
    - TeHCrAzY 16y ago
      Or perhaps you are attributing company culture to an under educated call center worker?
      - rbanffy 16y ago
        Have you seen how poorly non-Microsoft browsers are supported by Microsoft's web tools? Exchange is a pain. Hotmail, on its last (last I saw - no longer use it) big change took months (many) for the Firefox version to arrive at a comparable feature set as the IE version. If you are not running Windows, you will face an even worse browser compatibility. For a long time, any ASP.NET application built with the GUI tools on Visual Studio was pretty much guaranteed not to work properly on anything but IE. No. I don't think the reaction of the call center worker is surprising in any measure. He could know non-Microsoft browsers were not supported and inferred the thing being from Google meant it would not be compatible. BTW, would it be compatible with Firefox on Linux?

by axod 16y ago

user24 16y ago

> for many Yes, for many sites with a technical audience. But for sites with an older, less technically sophisticated userbase, IE still has the vast majority over other browsers. I hear what you're saying about the widget. But is that downloads? In which case: selection bias. What do the stats look like as far as impressions go on the non-techy sites?

axod 16y ago
Those stats combine main client (chat.mibbit.com) with our widget, split roughly 50/50. The widget is used on various websites, gaming, stock trading, dating, etc etc Sure, it's still probably going to be slightly more tech, but I'm guessing there's quite a few other webapps who have similar demographic. It also depends on how 'global' you are. IE usage varies wildly by country.
ssharp 16y ago
Here are stats for the University I work at. It's still not a representative sample but does show a different picture. (Current Period): IE 35.01% Firefox 33.32% Safari 15.68% Chrome 14.56% (Current Period - 1 Year): IE 40.61% Firefox 38.79% Safari 12.92% Chrome 4.93%
- axod 16y ago
  Pretty high Safari usage there. I'm guessing macs are extremely common at the University?
  - ssharp 16y ago
    Probably more so than in the "real world". FWIW, our usage stats on OSX break down to about 2/3 using Safari and 1/3 using Firefox.
    - dev360 16y ago
      You're not trying to say that academia is an imaginary world, are you?
      - ssharp 16y ago
        No, but I think it's safe to say that it's off the mean in many areas.
- mike-cardwell 16y ago
  What country? I suspect figures in Europe are very different from those in the US. European versions of Windows are now required to offer a selection of browsers at install time.
  - ssharp 16y ago
    US
jeroen 16y ago
For a car site I run I get the following IE usage over the last couple of years (monthly visits in the 5K range): apr 2007 71.8% oct 2007 74.5% apr 2008 72.0% oct 2008 67.1% apr 2009 67.6% oct 2009 65.6% apr 2010 58.5% oct 2010 61.2% That's still a considerable majority of IE users.

abstractbill 16y ago

Justin.tv is trending the same way, but more slowly - Chrome hasn't caught up with IE yet. Seems like it's just a matter of time now though: Firefox 36.16% IE 35.78% Chrome 19.35% Safari 6.08% Opera 1.85% Other <1%

stuhacking 16y ago

Oh, so Google is to blame? No Microsoft, your adCenter is not compatible with your customer's browser.

axod 16y ago
Their attitude was especially surprising, since I'm actually trying to spend money with them.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  "Surprising" is not how I would describe it. In fact, given their own Microsoft-centric view of the tech universe, it's nothing but expected. "Boneheaded", perhaps, would be more appropriate.
  - TeHCrAzY 16y ago
    Or perhaps you are attributing company culture to an under educated call center worker?
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      Have you seen how poorly non-Microsoft browsers are supported by Microsoft's web tools? Exchange is a pain. Hotmail, on its last (last I saw - no longer use it) big change took months (many) for the Firefox version to arrive at a comparable feature set as the IE version. If you are not running Windows, you will face an even worse browser compatibility. For a long time, any ASP.NET application built with the GUI tools on Visual Studio was pretty much guaranteed not to work properly on anything but IE. No. I don't think the reaction of the call center worker is surprising in any measure. He could know non-Microsoft browsers were not supported and inferred the thing being from Google meant it would not be compatible. BTW, would it be compatible with Firefox on Linux?