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This goes beyond what the customers think of the CEO. This is about culture, about employees morale, about attracting developers who may have been against using

by remir 8y ago

This goes beyond what the customers think of the CEO. This is about culture, about employees morale, about attracting developers who may have been against using some of MS products in the past for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps having Linux in Azure was inevitable, like you said, but I don't think something like the Linux subsystem stuff they implemented in Windows 10 would have been OKayd by Ballmer. Same thing with stuff like VS Code and the new switch to Chromium for Edge. It's about a culture where these kinds of ideas are encouraged and can develop into features and products. Why is Google so successful? Because the culture allows people's ideas to develop into what became huge products loved by millions of people.

sonnyblarney 8y ago
"Why is Google so successful? Because the culture allows people's ideas to develop into what became huge products loved by millions of people." So During Ballmer's tenure, they always made a ton more money than Google. So 'Ballmer's culture' was therefore the winner? I'm afraid your argument is not based in how the world works actually works - it's more based on a 'feeling' of how people think it 'should work'. Ballmer was somewhat aggressive in character, so was Gates by the way - they build a world class company that changed the world. And FYI just because he was aggressive, does not mean he didn't 'foster change' or 'allow ideas'. It's really more a disposition than anything. And FYI - MS made it's money by focusing on Windows, that decision is not because 'Ballmer is mean' and 'Satya is nice' - it has nothing to do with their emotional posture. To imply in any way that they were not successfull or couldn't adapt, while they launched a series of world class products is just false. " Because the culture allows people's ideas to develop into what became huge products loved by millions of people." You mean while they spy on your every move? You've seen the headlines right? Google is prying into my (and your) personal life in every possible way and trying to leverage that. Was 'meanie Ballmer' every trying to read your mind to profit off of that? No?
- remir 8y ago
  >So During Ballmer's tenure, they always made a ton more money than Google. As expected, since Microsoft is an older and much more established company. >Ballmer was somewhat aggressive in character, so was Gates by the way - they build a world class company that changed the world. Nobody is denying that.

by remir 8y ago

sonnyblarney 8y ago

"Why is Google so successful? Because the culture allows people's ideas to develop into what became huge products loved by millions of people." So During Ballmer's tenure, they always made a ton more money than Google. So 'Ballmer's culture' was therefore the winner? I'm afraid your argument is not based in how the world works actually works - it's more based on a 'feeling' of how people think it 'should work'. Ballmer was somewhat aggressive in character, so was Gates by the way - they build a world class company that changed the world. And FYI just because he was aggressive, does not mean he didn't 'foster change' or 'allow ideas'. It's really more a disposition than anything. And FYI - MS made it's money by focusing on Windows, that decision is not because 'Ballmer is mean' and 'Satya is nice' - it has nothing to do with their emotional posture. To imply in any way that they were not successfull or couldn't adapt, while they launched a series of world class products is just false. " Because the culture allows people's ideas to develop into what became huge products loved by millions of people." You mean while they spy on your every move? You've seen the headlines right? Google is prying into my (and your) personal life in every possible way and trying to leverage that. Was 'meanie Ballmer' every trying to read your mind to profit off of that? No?

remir 8y ago
>So During Ballmer's tenure, they always made a ton more money than Google. As expected, since Microsoft is an older and much more established company. >Ballmer was somewhat aggressive in character, so was Gates by the way - they build a world class company that changed the world. Nobody is denying that.