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fact checking has always been a silly, hopeless attempt to find a technocratic solution to fundamentally political problems.
by 0x262d 8y ago
fact checking has always been a silly, hopeless attempt to find a technocratic solution to fundamentally political problems.
- fitpolar 8y agoIt's a hopeless quest until AI reaches a certain level of objective interpretation. Regarding humans, most people who are capable of researching truth without any bias, don't have a voice. Human history is riddled with partisan extremists presenting biased information as neutral and factual. Snopes is no exception.
- deogeo 8y agoDo you trust whoever trained or is controlling the AI?
- fitpolar 8y agoAt this point nothing is trustworthy. But I have more faith that AI is going to do a better job in future than humans ever have. We may be 100 years away from that though, or 1000 years. Who knows?
- 52-6F-62 8y agoAnd then this AI is the sole bearer of all ultimate, unarguable truth regardless. Like a god you mean?
- fitpolar 8y agoIs that your interpretation? Mine is the opposite: "At this point nothing is trustworthy". Just saying that humans have an extremely poor track record at compromising information for political gain. Anything would be better at this point, you can't get any worse.
- 52-6F-62 8y agoI think it could get worse but that’s just me. I prefer an aggregate. Then I can derive what I think is the truth. Trust is learned, anyway. Except for children— they often do as a default until a point in their lives.
- Steko 8y ago> partisan extremists presenting biased information as neutral and factual. Snopes is no exception. Please cite some of these "partisan extremist" examples from Snopes.
- sgc 8y agoI disagree completely. That's the equivalent of saying property restitution is stupid because the real problem is why thieves steal.
- 0x262d 8y agono it isn't
- TheOperator 8y agoFact checking is a great development. Don't get hung up on fact checkers bogus claims of neutrality and objectivity. Instead realise that "fact check" articles are basically like regular news articles but with easy to track down references and sources.
- 0x262d 8y agobut that isn't "fact checking" - it's a very limited promise (of being well-sourced). and even then it is debatable. objectively true and as-good-as-neutral is exactly the claim being made, at least implicitly, by the fact checking hype. the ultimate effect of fact-checking will be to reinforce the power of mainstream, well-established news sources, which is all well and good unless you think they consciously choose which facts they share and how they frame them in a way that goes against your interests, which I believe is often true (and plenty of people agree with me). then it falls back to being a failed technocratic solution to a political problem very suddenly.