> I wouldn't even dare say that those revolutions were even driven by "common" men, But they were, though not in a good way. One of the easiest-to-spot dynamic

> I wouldn't even dare say that those revolutions were even driven by "common" men, But they were, though not in a good way. One of the easiest-to-spot dynamics in a chaotic "revolution" is extreme violence as huge mobs of "common" folks fight for power and influence, striving to become the new "big men" and "drivers" of the revolution itself. Nobody is being fooled or tricked, other than by perhaps fooling or tricking themselves; there are winners and losers to the struggle, but these are only evident after the fact.