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None that can match the maturity or performance of AWS. I always hear really terrible things about Oracle and IBM. edit: Mostly I've heard it just generally is

None that can match the maturity or performance of AWS. I always hear really terrible things about Oracle and IBM. edit: Mostly I've heard it just generally is not great, plus you have to deal with typical Oracle badness.

tmd83 8y ago
Do you have specifics to share about Oracle clouds. That's the one you hear the least about publicly I think. You at least can get some ideas of the problems of AWS, GCE and Azure.
- jstanley 8y ago
  Oracle offer quite a compelling free trial. I got a VM for 30 days with 16 gigabytes (!) of RAM and it didn't cost me a penny. In fact, the machine continued working for a few months after the trial ended, which I thought was very generous. They just blocked port 80 and 443 inbound. They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! I was actually tempted to keep paying for the VM from Oracle, but the high-touch sales person literally could not tell me how much it was going to cost. She could point me towards the price calculator page, but the VM type I had been given in my free trial did not exist in their price calculator. I asked for just a simple number: how much is this going to cost me per month? She could not give me an answer. So I didn't buy it. I still have no idea whether it would have been a good deal or not.
  - outworlder 8y ago
    > They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! The do that too once you are big enough.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      It’s not about being big just willing to spend the money on a business support plan - 10% of your monthly spend with a minimum of $100/month.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! You haven’t had the joy of having a business support plan from AWS. You can start a chat and get immediate help. They will do a screen share with you if necessary. I have had a 100% success with them. This is everything from CloudFormstion issues, S3 cross account permissions with CodeBuild/CodePipeline, API gateway/Route53 set up issues, IAM permissions to read and write from S3 to Aurora/Redshift, a best practices question with DynamoDB/Dax with Python, and a Route 53/Security group/autoscale group/load balancer issue. All of these issues were because of my lack of knowledge on the platform.
derefr 8y ago
"IBM Cloud" is just the rebranded name of Softlayer (which was acquired.) They're decent for managed bare-metal hosting.
- LoSboccacc 8y ago
  yeah it's the offering on top that's impossible to use. I mean once you set it up it works like everybody else does, but finding how to access those managed services beyond vm and hosted is exceptionally convoluted

tmd83 8y ago

Do you have specifics to share about Oracle clouds. That's the one you hear the least about publicly I think. You at least can get some ideas of the problems of AWS, GCE and Azure.

jstanley 8y ago
Oracle offer quite a compelling free trial. I got a VM for 30 days with 16 gigabytes (!) of RAM and it didn't cost me a penny. In fact, the machine continued working for a few months after the trial ended, which I thought was very generous. They just blocked port 80 and 443 inbound. They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! I was actually tempted to keep paying for the VM from Oracle, but the high-touch sales person literally could not tell me how much it was going to cost. She could point me towards the price calculator page, but the VM type I had been given in my free trial did not exist in their price calculator. I asked for just a simple number: how much is this going to cost me per month? She could not give me an answer. So I didn't buy it. I still have no idea whether it would have been a good deal or not.
- outworlder 8y ago
  > They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! The do that too once you are big enough.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    It’s not about being big just willing to spend the money on a business support plan - 10% of your monthly spend with a minimum of $100/month.
- scarface74 8y ago
  They even have a high-touch sales process where a real person sends you emails and replies when you send them questions. Imagine that at AWS! You haven’t had the joy of having a business support plan from AWS. You can start a chat and get immediate help. They will do a screen share with you if necessary. I have had a 100% success with them. This is everything from CloudFormstion issues, S3 cross account permissions with CodeBuild/CodePipeline, API gateway/Route53 set up issues, IAM permissions to read and write from S3 to Aurora/Redshift, a best practices question with DynamoDB/Dax with Python, and a Route 53/Security group/autoscale group/load balancer issue. All of these issues were because of my lack of knowledge on the platform.

derefr 8y ago

"IBM Cloud" is just the rebranded name of Softlayer (which was acquired.) They're decent for managed bare-metal hosting.

LoSboccacc 8y ago
yeah it's the offering on top that's impossible to use. I mean once you set it up it works like everybody else does, but finding how to access those managed services beyond vm and hosted is exceptionally convoluted