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I can’t tell if these layoffs are good or bad.
by adamnemecek 8y ago
I can’t tell if these layoffs are good or bad.
- Kye 8y agoIf I go by what I see on Twitter, it seems they're mostly cutting LGBTQ+ people and writers of color. Whether that's good or bad depends on your perspective. edit: I said "If I go by." I didn't say it was the case. It's a non-judgmental observation.
- praneshp 8y agoOne reason could be that people of those demographics are more outspoken on twitter.
- labster 8y agoGoing by what you see on Twitter is probably the bad perspective.
- vowelless 8y agoIf that was the case, there would be a MASSIVE lawsuit with lots of money to be made by the people let go and lawyers involved.
- tick_tock_tick 8y agoThey also hired a disproportionately large number into the roles they are cutting so it would make sense that they would be cut at higher rates.
- Kye 8y ago>> "They also hired a disproportionately large number" Did they? I haven't seen any statistics.
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- chmod775 8y agoWeird. That is what I was gonna reply to YOUR comment.
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- Kye 8y agoI asked for a source on a falsifiable assertion. Do you routinely ask people to go and collect data for casual observations? I don't know why this one has people so up in arms when they happen all the time here at HN.
- 52-6F-62 8y agoThe layoffs themselves— I think we'll have to wait and see. What the layoffs may mean for the future of journalism (McClatchy being a solid source of good journalism) doesn't give me a good feeling.
- analogmemory 8y agoDepends on who they lay off, but it does mean they'll have less resources to do investigative journalism. Hidden Brain had a good podcast episode on the costs of newspapers going out of business. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/675092808/starving-the-watchdog-who-foots-the-bill-when-newspapers-disappear https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/675092808/starving-the-watchd... Unless you're a shady person, then it's all good news :(
- adamnemecek 8y agoNone of these outlets do investigative journalism.
- dublinben 8y agoIt took less than a minute to find this: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/ https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/
- jdietrich 8y agoBuzzfeed have one of the best investigative bureaus in the world. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/investigations https://www.buzzfeednews.com/investigations
- yasp 8y agoAccording to whom and on what basis? Their standards for publication seem to be low, AFAICT [1] [2]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-... [2] https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/20/the-liberal-media-eats-it-again-n2539302 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/20/the-liber...
- fitzroy 8y agoThat isn't true. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/investigations https://www.buzzfeednews.com/investigations https://www.vice.com/en_us/topic/investigative-journalism https://www.vice.com/en_us/topic/investigative-journalism https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/ https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/
- elicash 8y agoLayoffs are bad -- this is affecting real people. WTF is wrong with you?
- oh_sigh 8y agoLayoffs are bad for the individual in the short term, but not necessarily bad in the medium or long term, because it frees those people to engage in more economically productive activity.
- dang 8y agoCan you please make your substantive points without crossing into personal attack, even if another comment is wrong or annoying? Downvotes and flags are usually sufficient to convey the latter anyhow (as above).
- commandlinefan 8y agoOne thing I learned the hard way a couple of years ago - when the company starts cutting back, you're better off being in the first couple of rounds of layoffs than being a "nonexpendable" who they hang on to until the bitter end. I was at a struggling startup that went through round after round of layoffs, offering generous severance packages in each round, until there were only like 10 of us left. Then one day they completely ran out of money and I showed up and the doors were locked and there was a note informing us that we were unemployed effective immediately and we would be paid out the remainder of the week.
- hinkley 8y agoFirst round. You aren't competing with your colleagues for jobs, you don't have to deal with survivor's guilt, and generally the severance will be better (or exist at all) because they either feel guilty or are still interested in virtue signalling by making sure you're taken care of. The main downside of first round is explaining why you were in the first round.
- redisman 8y agoUnless you're some top hat wearing, moustache twirling villain I don't see how layoffs are good news. Let's not get too arrogant just because our field is on a high. Too young to be affected by 2000 or 2008 or just lacking sympathy in general?