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Isn't it pretty much proven that IQ is mostly determined by genetics, and that races like the Ashkenazi Jews are extremely above average compared to the rest of

Isn't it pretty much proven that IQ is mostly determined by genetics, and that races like the Ashkenazi Jews are extremely above average compared to the rest of the world? Tell me - what is racist about this scientific fact: Black people are stronger and run faster (indubitably due to slavery / selective breeding.) Jews are smarter (most nobel prizes.) Races are different, sure. To say that smarter or stronger means superior, is racist. But before that, understanding of differences... that's just science. Since strength and smartness are both held by society as virtues, it's easy to look like a racist if you simply state science.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Isn't it pretty much proven that IQ is mostly determined by genetics The evidence currently seems to suggest that just barely more than half of variation in IQ is genetic. > and that races like the Ashkenazi Jews are extremely above average No. Askhenazi Jews specifically (not some group of “races” of which they are an example) are signficantly above average (that is, the tested samples are above average of other samples in a way which is extremely improbable if the real population average of the group isn't actually higher, too), but not extremely higher. > Tell me - what is racist about this scientific fact: Black people are stronger and run faster (indubitably due to slavery / selective breeding.) Jews are smarter (most nobel prizes.) Those two claims are not a fact, they are two separate racial stereotypes, one of which is offered with a parenthetical explanation for a potential set of causes, the other with a parenthetical apparently about an putative effect for which the offered stereotype is conjectured as a cause, and both ignore social reasons why the groups involved might be overrepresented in the highly visible top-tier performers in given categories without the group itself having a general advantage, much less a genetic one.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Isn't it pretty much proven that IQ is mostly determined by genetics The evidence currently seems to suggest that just barely more than half of variation in IQ is genetic. > and that races like the Ashkenazi Jews are extremely above average No. Askhenazi Jews specifically (not some group of “races” of which they are an example) are signficantly above average (that is, the tested samples are above average of other samples in a way which is extremely improbable if the real population average of the group isn't actually higher, too), but not extremely higher. > Tell me - what is racist about this scientific fact: Black people are stronger and run faster (indubitably due to slavery / selective breeding.) Jews are smarter (most nobel prizes.) Those two claims are not a fact, they are two separate racial stereotypes, one of which is offered with a parenthetical explanation for a potential set of causes, the other with a parenthetical apparently about an putative effect for which the offered stereotype is conjectured as a cause, and both ignore social reasons why the groups involved might be overrepresented in the highly visible top-tier performers in given categories without the group itself having a general advantage, much less a genetic one.