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That's pretty interesting, is it expensive for all types of cheese from like kraft singles to french brie? Do you have any other stories of common EU/US items

That's pretty interesting, is it expensive for all types of cheese from like kraft singles to french brie? Do you have any other stories of common EU/US items that are rare in Japan?

stevekemp 8y ago
I might be being a bit of a snob, but in the context of a cheese-related discussion kraft singles don't really rate mention.
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  Are you even allowed to call them cheese? I thought they had to be labeled as a processed milk product or something.
  - gruez 8y ago
    They’re called “process cheese product”
    - telchar 8y ago
      Apparently that's the high end, the low end being "process American product slices". Not even allowed to use the word "cheese" in a name.
- ctrl-j 8y ago
  Say what you will about Kraft singles, but they melt like nothing else. Kraft doesn't belong everywhere, but it has foodie applications. [0] [0] - https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/whats-really-in-american-cheese.html https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/whats-really-in-american...
  - Foobar8568 8y ago
    Ever tried to grill raclette, vacherinn, gruyère, camembert, reblochon etc? For a couple of raw milk cheeses that are either dedicated to eat grilled/melt or "cold". Anything like Kraft singles is a joke
    - drak0n1c 8y ago
      There's a reason why people say "the best thing since sliced bread". Sliced cheese has similar structural advantages. What is convenient becomes popular - for better or worse.
      - kaybe 8y ago
        You can buy some of those cheeses sliced or grated in the supermarket here. It's not a structural problem.
    - ctrl-j 8y ago
      Of the cheeses you've listed that I have tried, they all have a very strong flavor that would overwhelm a burger - sometimes a mild gooey flavor is exactly what is called for. Is there a cheese that you would consider to have a very mild chedderish flavor that has a more gooey sticky consistency like american cheese? What exactly about American cheese do you find so unpalatable? > Anything like Kraft singles is a joke Ridiculous dismissive statements like this aren't very helpful are they? If you want to be closed off, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to be persuaded by such a comment devoid of substance, and I doubt you're going to change anyone else's mind with such a diminutive statement. It's just circlejerk snobbery - which is pretty much just bullshit.
  - orf 8y ago
    Plenty of cheeses melt better than those. A whole load of French cheeses are pretty much half melted already!
  - maxerickson 8y ago
    You can add emulsifying salts to any cheese you want to use in melted form though.
jayalpha 8y ago
Most western food is likely more expensive. I can speak only for China. - Cheese. Good Cheese is expensive. - Milk is expensive - Floss and mouth wash was uncommon and expensive until recently. - dentures cleaners were super expensive (I use them for a retainer) - Wine is expensive. Both, western and Chinese

That's pretty interesting, is it expensive for all types of cheese from like kraft singles to french brie? Do you have any other stories of common EU/US items that are rare in Japan?

stevekemp 8y ago

I might be being a bit of a snob, but in the context of a cheese-related discussion kraft singles don't really rate mention.

oh_sigh 8y ago
Are you even allowed to call them cheese? I thought they had to be labeled as a processed milk product or something.
- gruez 8y ago
  They’re called “process cheese product”
  - telchar 8y ago
    Apparently that's the high end, the low end being "process American product slices". Not even allowed to use the word "cheese" in a name.
ctrl-j 8y ago
Say what you will about Kraft singles, but they melt like nothing else. Kraft doesn't belong everywhere, but it has foodie applications. [0] [0] - https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/whats-really-in-american-cheese.html https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/whats-really-in-american...
- Foobar8568 8y ago
  Ever tried to grill raclette, vacherinn, gruyère, camembert, reblochon etc? For a couple of raw milk cheeses that are either dedicated to eat grilled/melt or "cold". Anything like Kraft singles is a joke
  - drak0n1c 8y ago
    There's a reason why people say "the best thing since sliced bread". Sliced cheese has similar structural advantages. What is convenient becomes popular - for better or worse.
    - kaybe 8y ago
      You can buy some of those cheeses sliced or grated in the supermarket here. It's not a structural problem.
  - ctrl-j 8y ago
    Of the cheeses you've listed that I have tried, they all have a very strong flavor that would overwhelm a burger - sometimes a mild gooey flavor is exactly what is called for. Is there a cheese that you would consider to have a very mild chedderish flavor that has a more gooey sticky consistency like american cheese? What exactly about American cheese do you find so unpalatable? > Anything like Kraft singles is a joke Ridiculous dismissive statements like this aren't very helpful are they? If you want to be closed off, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not going to be persuaded by such a comment devoid of substance, and I doubt you're going to change anyone else's mind with such a diminutive statement. It's just circlejerk snobbery - which is pretty much just bullshit.
- orf 8y ago
  Plenty of cheeses melt better than those. A whole load of French cheeses are pretty much half melted already!
- maxerickson 8y ago
  You can add emulsifying salts to any cheese you want to use in melted form though.

jayalpha 8y ago

Most western food is likely more expensive. I can speak only for China. - Cheese. Good Cheese is expensive. - Milk is expensive - Floss and mouth wash was uncommon and expensive until recently. - dentures cleaners were super expensive (I use them for a retainer) - Wine is expensive. Both, western and Chinese