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I think the bigger debate is whether eugenics or anti-dysgenics should be a policy goal of the government. Whether we like it or not - if we don't pass our bes

I think the bigger debate is whether eugenics or anti-dysgenics should be a policy goal of the government. Whether we like it or not - if we don't pass our best genes down to our children we are hurting future generations. I suspect the fact that we've turned so against eugenics goes hand in hand with the fact that we've also destroyed the environment, the financial well-being, and even the mental health of the next generation (especially here in America).

vmh1928 8y ago
In my observation (completely unbiased, mind you,) brains come from the mother. Therefore it's vitally important for the future of the human race that smart women have children. Certainly the stupid ones are.
throwawaymanbot 8y ago
Laughably you are posting this opinion here? Its not for YOU (or your ilk) to pick winners in the "best genes" debate. What you deem to be "good genes" is a garbage hypothesis based on your own personal outlook and bias. Your own personal outlook and bias is not how nature works now should it. (Luckily for those who may not meet your genetic standards) I think the bigger debate is why you care about eugenics and don't have the courage to just say what you really feel, instead of dressing it up like failed Nazi policy is what America and the west needs right now. (if they could just man up and implement a eugenics policy to save us all)
thebigspacefuck 8y ago
We don't know what the best genes are or will be. Furthermore as humans we work together to overcome personal shortcomings and develop technological/medical solutions to overcome genetic "issues". ADHD or ASD can be a gift or a curse depending on the environment you live in. I find different cultures/religions to be quite interesting in their characteristics of families. Mormons seem to have larger families. They require 10% of income goes to the church which increases the church's influence, so the church gets stronger the more people are in it. It's like a self-sustaining organism that gets stronger with each generation. As an intelligent individual belonging to no particular culture or religion, I feel less inclined to have children than others I know since it's not part of my values. It's likely that people like myself are going to have a difficult time passing on our genetics. If you want to encourage smart people to have kids, create a religion/culture that makes sense to them and give them that directive.
- candiodari 8y ago
  > We don't know what the best genes are or will be. True, but we know of a LOT of situations which genes won't be any good. ADHD, ASD are survivable, but despite the fact that one of the great physicists of the 20th century had it, I think even he would agree that ALS should not be allowed to occur. Also interfering in health effectively means everybody is being asked to bear a burden for those faulty genes. Which is where the real argument will come from.
exploderwhale 8y ago
It is an implicit policy goal of the government e.g. sex segregation in prisons.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  Sex segregation in prisons is based on maintaining discipline, resting (like many other instances of sex segregation) on the unstated (and always known false) assumption that everyone is heterosexual. It isn't based on eugenics, which is why conjugal visits are a thing.

vmh1928 8y ago

In my observation (completely unbiased, mind you,) brains come from the mother. Therefore it's vitally important for the future of the human race that smart women have children. Certainly the stupid ones are.

throwawaymanbot 8y ago

Laughably you are posting this opinion here? Its not for YOU (or your ilk) to pick winners in the "best genes" debate. What you deem to be "good genes" is a garbage hypothesis based on your own personal outlook and bias. Your own personal outlook and bias is not how nature works now should it. (Luckily for those who may not meet your genetic standards) I think the bigger debate is why you care about eugenics and don't have the courage to just say what you really feel, instead of dressing it up like failed Nazi policy is what America and the west needs right now. (if they could just man up and implement a eugenics policy to save us all)

thebigspacefuck 8y ago

We don't know what the best genes are or will be. Furthermore as humans we work together to overcome personal shortcomings and develop technological/medical solutions to overcome genetic "issues". ADHD or ASD can be a gift or a curse depending on the environment you live in. I find different cultures/religions to be quite interesting in their characteristics of families. Mormons seem to have larger families. They require 10% of income goes to the church which increases the church's influence, so the church gets stronger the more people are in it. It's like a self-sustaining organism that gets stronger with each generation. As an intelligent individual belonging to no particular culture or religion, I feel less inclined to have children than others I know since it's not part of my values. It's likely that people like myself are going to have a difficult time passing on our genetics. If you want to encourage smart people to have kids, create a religion/culture that makes sense to them and give them that directive.

candiodari 8y ago
> We don't know what the best genes are or will be. True, but we know of a LOT of situations which genes won't be any good. ADHD, ASD are survivable, but despite the fact that one of the great physicists of the 20th century had it, I think even he would agree that ALS should not be allowed to occur. Also interfering in health effectively means everybody is being asked to bear a burden for those faulty genes. Which is where the real argument will come from.

exploderwhale 8y ago

It is an implicit policy goal of the government e.g. sex segregation in prisons.

dragonwriter 8y ago
Sex segregation in prisons is based on maintaining discipline, resting (like many other instances of sex segregation) on the unstated (and always known false) assumption that everyone is heterosexual. It isn't based on eugenics, which is why conjugal visits are a thing.