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Yeah whoever made this site is bat-shit crazy. But there is tons of great information here. Anything from making soap the old fashioned way to brushed and brush

Yeah whoever made this site is bat-shit crazy. But there is tons of great information here. Anything from making soap the old fashioned way to brushed and brushless DC motors. Its really cool and wouldn't be the worst thing to have printed off and saved in a fallout shelter.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>and wouldn't be the worst thing to have printed off and saved in a fallout shelter. >6922 Files, 14.8 GB If things get real bad you could always burn it to keep warm. In print form it's probably a better use of space than a bunch of stuffed animals but I think you're probably better off getting a bunch of cheap android phones and sticking it on the SD card and using most of that space for something else.
imglorp 8y ago
I've always thought it might be cool to package up a bunch of literature on a stack of SD cards and package them with a low power e-ink reader and a solar panel to charge it, then market as a "reboot civilization" kit. The hardest part is actually finding a generic e-ink reader with an sd card slot that doesn't cost $500. It shouldn't need to run full android, just show a PDF or TXT, that's all it needs to do. An offline wikipedia dump, emergency medical manual and PDR, survival manuals, etc etc like this site might go well.
- kybernetikos 8y ago
  http://thewikireader.com/ http://thewikireader.com/ update: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireaders-and-provide-an-opportunity-for-kids-to-learn#/updates/all https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireade... I don't have one - my phone contains an offline wikipedia dump (including images), offline maps of the world including geological maps, medical manual, and my book collection, including things like http://the-knowledge.org/en-gb/ http://the-knowledge.org/en-gb/. I've got a vague plan to download the primitive technology youtube videos too.
  - isostatic 8y ago
    So once "the end" comes, you'll be set for a good 4 hours before your phone runs out of battery?
    - irrational 8y ago
      You could recharge your phone using sticks (https://www.rei.com/product/115523/biolite-wood-burning-campstove-2-with-flexlight https://www.rei.com/product/115523/biolite-wood-burning-camp...) or a solar panel.
      - goda90 8y ago
        I wonder what the longevity of something like that is. And for solar panels what do you do if it's a supervolcano that blocks out the sun? The real solution is a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which will give you a few hundred watts for decades. But I don't think they sell those online...
    - kybernetikos 8y ago
      My phone lasts a good 20 hours! Also, I do have a solar cell, but yeah, modern phones aren't really designed for post apocalyptic conditions surprisingly. Fortunately, all that is also useful in tunnels, underground bars, the countryside and when travelling abroad.
      - elihu 8y ago
        For what it's worth, I have an old cheap LG phone that I once accidentally sent through the laundry and it was fine.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    By offline Wikipedia dump, you mean Kiwix? (https://www.kiwix.org/ https://www.kiwix.org/)
    - kybernetikos 8y ago
- mikestew 8y ago
  Anyone that has messed with a Raspberry Pi will tell you that you don't want to hang the hopes of humanity being rebooted on a consumer-grade SD card. And since I'm nit-picking, any scenario necessitating the rebooting of civilization might very well involve something that fries SD cards and takes the silicon in your solar panel with it (nukes, big solar flare thingy). Boy Scout Field Guide and an Army survival manual, sorted.
  - magduf 8y ago
    Nukes and solar flares can be protected against: just seal your electronics in a good faraday cage. Putting them in an underground bunker in a lead-lined room should do it. Your paper books won't last as long: today's paper is acidic and falls apart within a century.
    - dorchadas 8y ago
      > Your paper books won't last as long: today's paper is acidic and falls apart within a century. I love old books, and this saddens me.
      - magduf 8y ago
        How old? If you like books that are more than a century or so old, then don't worry, those books were made with high-quality paper that really does last. It's the books in the 20th century that won't. (Some might, higher-quality ones say "printed on acid-free paper", so theoretically those will age as well as books made in the 1800s.)
    - bluGill 8y ago
      You can buy acid free archival paper that will last 500 years with careful storage. It costs ~3-5x as much, but is available.
      - magduf 8y ago
        You can, but you're probably not going to find whatever books the OP was referring to printed on that paper. You'll have to scan them and print them on that paper yourself (assuming that laser toner will also last as long; probably so, given it's basically melted plastic, but I'm not sure).
- an_account_name 8y ago
  The original Kindle has an SD card slot, swappable battery, and is available on eBay for cheap.
  - imglorp 8y ago
    Right, like that, but where do I get new ones with similar specs to VAR? There don't seem to be any. Almost room for a new hardware platform here.
- 0-_-0 8y ago
  > "reboot civilization" kit Or, as was known in Fallout, the Garden of Eden Creation Kit (G.E.C.K.)
- int_19h 8y ago
  It's a thing in the prepping community. The "package up a bunch of literature" (in electronic form) predates e-readers even, and there are many multi-gigabyte bundles of books and technical manuals floating around, just copied from person to person. When readers appeared, they were quickly incorporated. Finding a e-ink reader like that is very easy: just go to eBay, and grab any of the used Nook Simple Touch on sale. Can be had for less than $20 if you look around, and it has an SD card slot.
- Izkata 8y ago
  Look at the Kobo brand of e-readers; mine was pretty cheap and automatically accesses any epubs on the microsd card inserted. (Probably other formats too, but epubs are all I use)
- throwawayForMe2 8y ago
  When I was interested in “survival” type topics back in the 80’s, there were a few magazines devoted to the topic, and I remember an ad for a large collection/library of useful basic information (how to make soap, butcher an animal, etc.) all placed on microfilm cards and came with a simple mechanical magnifier/reader. No power or fancy tech required.
adrianN 8y ago
The site recommends building domes out of Sulphur. That doesn't seem like very good advice. As a non-expert in survival, I'd be wary of trusting anything written by a person with a creative interpretation of what's real and what isn't. You never know what else they're having unconventional opinions of.
- sifoobar 8y ago
  Yeah, we don't want any unconventional ideas to slip through; cause that might lead to changes, and evolution and all sorts of scary shit.
  - adrianN 8y ago
    Yeah, in a life-or-death situation after Planet X realigns the poles, I definitely don't want the experimental survival guide when proven methods exists. I leave the bold changes to bolder people.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

>and wouldn't be the worst thing to have printed off and saved in a fallout shelter. >6922 Files, 14.8 GB If things get real bad you could always burn it to keep warm. In print form it's probably a better use of space than a bunch of stuffed animals but I think you're probably better off getting a bunch of cheap android phones and sticking it on the SD card and using most of that space for something else.

imglorp 8y ago

I've always thought it might be cool to package up a bunch of literature on a stack of SD cards and package them with a low power e-ink reader and a solar panel to charge it, then market as a "reboot civilization" kit. The hardest part is actually finding a generic e-ink reader with an sd card slot that doesn't cost $500. It shouldn't need to run full android, just show a PDF or TXT, that's all it needs to do. An offline wikipedia dump, emergency medical manual and PDR, survival manuals, etc etc like this site might go well.

kybernetikos 8y ago
http://thewikireader.com/ http://thewikireader.com/ update: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireaders-and-provide-an-opportunity-for-kids-to-learn#/updates/all https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireade... I don't have one - my phone contains an offline wikipedia dump (including images), offline maps of the world including geological maps, medical manual, and my book collection, including things like http://the-knowledge.org/en-gb/ http://the-knowledge.org/en-gb/. I've got a vague plan to download the primitive technology youtube videos too.
- isostatic 8y ago
  So once "the end" comes, you'll be set for a good 4 hours before your phone runs out of battery?
  - irrational 8y ago
    You could recharge your phone using sticks (https://www.rei.com/product/115523/biolite-wood-burning-campstove-2-with-flexlight https://www.rei.com/product/115523/biolite-wood-burning-camp...) or a solar panel.
    - goda90 8y ago
      I wonder what the longevity of something like that is. And for solar panels what do you do if it's a supervolcano that blocks out the sun? The real solution is a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which will give you a few hundred watts for decades. But I don't think they sell those online...
  - kybernetikos 8y ago
    My phone lasts a good 20 hours! Also, I do have a solar cell, but yeah, modern phones aren't really designed for post apocalyptic conditions surprisingly. Fortunately, all that is also useful in tunnels, underground bars, the countryside and when travelling abroad.
    - elihu 8y ago
      For what it's worth, I have an old cheap LG phone that I once accidentally sent through the laundry and it was fine.
- int_19h 8y ago
  By offline Wikipedia dump, you mean Kiwix? (https://www.kiwix.org/ https://www.kiwix.org/)
  - kybernetikos 8y ago
mikestew 8y ago
Anyone that has messed with a Raspberry Pi will tell you that you don't want to hang the hopes of humanity being rebooted on a consumer-grade SD card. And since I'm nit-picking, any scenario necessitating the rebooting of civilization might very well involve something that fries SD cards and takes the silicon in your solar panel with it (nukes, big solar flare thingy). Boy Scout Field Guide and an Army survival manual, sorted.
- magduf 8y ago
  Nukes and solar flares can be protected against: just seal your electronics in a good faraday cage. Putting them in an underground bunker in a lead-lined room should do it. Your paper books won't last as long: today's paper is acidic and falls apart within a century.
  - dorchadas 8y ago
    > Your paper books won't last as long: today's paper is acidic and falls apart within a century. I love old books, and this saddens me.
    - magduf 8y ago
      How old? If you like books that are more than a century or so old, then don't worry, those books were made with high-quality paper that really does last. It's the books in the 20th century that won't. (Some might, higher-quality ones say "printed on acid-free paper", so theoretically those will age as well as books made in the 1800s.)
  - bluGill 8y ago
    You can buy acid free archival paper that will last 500 years with careful storage. It costs ~3-5x as much, but is available.
    - magduf 8y ago
      You can, but you're probably not going to find whatever books the OP was referring to printed on that paper. You'll have to scan them and print them on that paper yourself (assuming that laser toner will also last as long; probably so, given it's basically melted plastic, but I'm not sure).
an_account_name 8y ago
The original Kindle has an SD card slot, swappable battery, and is available on eBay for cheap.
- imglorp 8y ago
  Right, like that, but where do I get new ones with similar specs to VAR? There don't seem to be any. Almost room for a new hardware platform here.
0-_-0 8y ago
> "reboot civilization" kit Or, as was known in Fallout, the Garden of Eden Creation Kit (G.E.C.K.)
int_19h 8y ago
It's a thing in the prepping community. The "package up a bunch of literature" (in electronic form) predates e-readers even, and there are many multi-gigabyte bundles of books and technical manuals floating around, just copied from person to person. When readers appeared, they were quickly incorporated. Finding a e-ink reader like that is very easy: just go to eBay, and grab any of the used Nook Simple Touch on sale. Can be had for less than $20 if you look around, and it has an SD card slot.
Izkata 8y ago
Look at the Kobo brand of e-readers; mine was pretty cheap and automatically accesses any epubs on the microsd card inserted. (Probably other formats too, but epubs are all I use)
throwawayForMe2 8y ago
When I was interested in “survival” type topics back in the 80’s, there were a few magazines devoted to the topic, and I remember an ad for a large collection/library of useful basic information (how to make soap, butcher an animal, etc.) all placed on microfilm cards and came with a simple mechanical magnifier/reader. No power or fancy tech required.

adrianN 8y ago

The site recommends building domes out of Sulphur. That doesn't seem like very good advice. As a non-expert in survival, I'd be wary of trusting anything written by a person with a creative interpretation of what's real and what isn't. You never know what else they're having unconventional opinions of.

sifoobar 8y ago
Yeah, we don't want any unconventional ideas to slip through; cause that might lead to changes, and evolution and all sorts of scary shit.
- adrianN 8y ago
  Yeah, in a life-or-death situation after Planet X realigns the poles, I definitely don't want the experimental survival guide when proven methods exists. I leave the bold changes to bolder people.