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> The likelihood of 6 adult individuals meeting and having sufficient overlap in goals and interests and habits to create a cohesive home is laughable. I disag

> The likelihood of 6 adult individuals meeting and having sufficient overlap in goals and interests and habits to create a cohesive home is laughable. I disagree. Already, there's a significant movement underway in the US called "co-living", which shares a lot of the features described by the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coliving https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coliving

lotsofpulp 8y ago
That's great until you throw a child into the mix. Or a sick in law who needs care. Or anything more complicated than a clean kitchen and bathroom.
- jnbiche 8y ago
  Some coliving housing is even oriented toward families with children and other dependents. Look it up, you'll be surprised.
  - lotsofpulp 8y ago
    I'm sure there are some people who can make it work, but my intent was to point out that it seems impossible to make it work for the vast majority. I would be interested in seeing how the normal political issues of a family are worked out between even more "chiefs". In a two person household, this is not too hard, as one person can yield to the other sometimes and vice versa, but I don't see many organizations functioning without some sort of hierarchy system.
iguy 8y ago
Are there numbers? The trend from what I understand is exactly the opposite. The US has passed 40% of births to unmarried mothers [1], so we're approaching a default family of 1 adult. (Possibly 1 adult present + some percentage of another's earning power, enforced by the courts, but still.) [1] https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/images/reports/2012/09/sr117/chart3.jpg https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/images/...
- jnbiche 8y ago
  Oh, I'm not claiming it's a large national movement. I'm sure the numbers are tiny, well under 1%. Also, coliving is confined to urban areas. The main reason I brought up coliving was as a counterexample to the claim that multi-couple cohabitation could never work. Even though the number of participants is currently quite low, there are thousands of people successfully living like this even in modern America.
- mcphage 8y ago
  > The US has passed 40% of births to unmarried mothers [1], so we're approaching a default family of 1 adult. The parents being unmarried doesn't mean that the father is out of the picture.
  - iguy 8y ago
    Of course, nor does having been married on day one imply that he is still in the picture. But what I described is the trend. And the right order of magnitude.

lotsofpulp 8y ago

That's great until you throw a child into the mix. Or a sick in law who needs care. Or anything more complicated than a clean kitchen and bathroom.

jnbiche 8y ago
Some coliving housing is even oriented toward families with children and other dependents. Look it up, you'll be surprised.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  I'm sure there are some people who can make it work, but my intent was to point out that it seems impossible to make it work for the vast majority. I would be interested in seeing how the normal political issues of a family are worked out between even more "chiefs". In a two person household, this is not too hard, as one person can yield to the other sometimes and vice versa, but I don't see many organizations functioning without some sort of hierarchy system.

iguy 8y ago

Are there numbers? The trend from what I understand is exactly the opposite. The US has passed 40% of births to unmarried mothers [1], so we're approaching a default family of 1 adult. (Possibly 1 adult present + some percentage of another's earning power, enforced by the courts, but still.) [1] https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/images/reports/2012/09/sr117/chart3.jpg https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/images/...

jnbiche 8y ago
Oh, I'm not claiming it's a large national movement. I'm sure the numbers are tiny, well under 1%. Also, coliving is confined to urban areas. The main reason I brought up coliving was as a counterexample to the claim that multi-couple cohabitation could never work. Even though the number of participants is currently quite low, there are thousands of people successfully living like this even in modern America.
mcphage 8y ago
> The US has passed 40% of births to unmarried mothers [1], so we're approaching a default family of 1 adult. The parents being unmarried doesn't mean that the father is out of the picture.
- iguy 8y ago
  Of course, nor does having been married on day one imply that he is still in the picture. But what I described is the trend. And the right order of magnitude.