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The Kinect works by projecting an infra-red grid on to the room so you can't use 2 of them in the same space (unless you modify the hardware somehow)

sp332 16y ago
Here's a nice video, if anyone's curious about what the infrared pattern looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvvQJxgykcU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvvQJxgykcU
charleso 16y ago
Could you synchronize two Kinect devices on one clock and then toggle the display/capture of that grid every odd or even 10ms span? So, only one grid is displayed and processed during its 'slice' of time, with the grids strobing rather than continuously projected. Software-only, or would that result in too jerky of a motion capture?
- ramidarigaz 16y ago
  10ms seems like a reasonably small period of time. I believe it is considered to be effectively instantaneous in UI. Edit: Although, I suppose the "refresh rate" of the entire system would then be 20ms, which might be noticeable. Chop that down to 5ms per Kinect, and it might be viable.
  - derefr 16y ago
    Only one "eye" [Kinect] has to notice/process the movement; the other can infer, during the integration step, that the "rest" of a moving object comes with it, rather than stretching out.
- ra 16y ago
  Absolutely you can. That's exactly how LED matrix displays work (look up charlieplexing). Unless the 3d environment is rapidly changing, you don't need that many frames per second from each device to capture a good image. 25 fps is one frame every 40ms.
- bradgessler 16y ago
  How about slightly different wavelengths of infrared?
- levesque 16y ago
  How about projecting different patterns?
- JabavuAdams 16y ago
  Couple this with shutter-glasses and time-multiplexed display. Now you can make a "3d" display that works for multiple viewers. Of course, the frame-rate would suffer.
sil3ntmac 16y ago
Maybe you could turn one on, capture the positions of the dots, and then turn the other on, and somehow guess which one was which when the 3d mesh changes (from motion)?
raphman 16y ago
Last week, a guy from Microsoft Research said that they got multiple cameras in the same space working, but that others in the lab had problems with it. Seems to depend on the setup, but is obviously possible

sp332 16y ago

Here's a nice video, if anyone's curious about what the infrared pattern looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvvQJxgykcU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvvQJxgykcU

charleso 16y ago

Could you synchronize two Kinect devices on one clock and then toggle the display/capture of that grid every odd or even 10ms span? So, only one grid is displayed and processed during its 'slice' of time, with the grids strobing rather than continuously projected. Software-only, or would that result in too jerky of a motion capture?

ramidarigaz 16y ago
10ms seems like a reasonably small period of time. I believe it is considered to be effectively instantaneous in UI. Edit: Although, I suppose the "refresh rate" of the entire system would then be 20ms, which might be noticeable. Chop that down to 5ms per Kinect, and it might be viable.
- derefr 16y ago
  Only one "eye" [Kinect] has to notice/process the movement; the other can infer, during the integration step, that the "rest" of a moving object comes with it, rather than stretching out.
ra 16y ago
Absolutely you can. That's exactly how LED matrix displays work (look up charlieplexing). Unless the 3d environment is rapidly changing, you don't need that many frames per second from each device to capture a good image. 25 fps is one frame every 40ms.
bradgessler 16y ago
How about slightly different wavelengths of infrared?
levesque 16y ago
How about projecting different patterns?
JabavuAdams 16y ago
Couple this with shutter-glasses and time-multiplexed display. Now you can make a "3d" display that works for multiple viewers. Of course, the frame-rate would suffer.

sil3ntmac 16y ago

Maybe you could turn one on, capture the positions of the dots, and then turn the other on, and somehow guess which one was which when the 3d mesh changes (from motion)?

raphman 16y ago

Last week, a guy from Microsoft Research said that they got multiple cameras in the same space working, but that others in the lab had problems with it. Seems to depend on the setup, but is obviously possible