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https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we-ll-find-them.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we...

by nytLOL 8y ago

tivert 8y ago
> A version of this op-ed appears in print on June 20, 2003, on Page A00023 of the National edition You know what an op-ed piece is, right? If you don't, here's a definition: > An op-ed, short for "opposite the editorial page" or "opinion editorial", is a written prose piece typically published by a newspaper or magazine which expresses the opinion of an author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed
- deogeo 8y ago
  Just because they put it in the op-ed section doesn't mean they weren't pushing war propaganda.
- nytLOL 8y ago
  I know what an op-ed is. I guess your point is that they don't fact check op-ed's so it doesn't count? The NYT itself felt it's reporting was bad enough it warranted an apology: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/weekinreview/the-public-editor-weapons-of-mass-destruction-or-mass-distraction.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/weekinreview/the-public-e...
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    TFA is a NYT opinion piece...
- GarrisonPrime 8y ago
  The fact that they published it (or that they didn't publish something) is hard proof of endorsement. If you think it isn't, I can only suggest you have a bizarre concept of reality.
  - tivert 8y ago
    > The fact that they published it (or that they didn't publish something) is hard proof of endorsement. No, not at all. It's only proof that it's a point of view they thought their readers should know about. Here's a contemporaneous editorial that expresses a very different view: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/01/opinion/the-bioweapons-enigma.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/01/opinion/the-bioweapons-en.... You can find all kinds of contradictory opinions in the NYT op-ed section, so it'd be nonsense to say the NYT endorses the view of every one (or any particular one) it publishes. > If you think it isn't, I can only suggest you have a bizarre concept of reality. I'd suggest your concept of reality is more bizarre than mine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we-ll-find-them.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we...

by nytLOL 8y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we-ll-find-them.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/20/opinion/saddam-s-bombs-we...

tivert 8y ago

> A version of this op-ed appears in print on June 20, 2003, on Page A00023 of the National edition You know what an op-ed piece is, right? If you don't, here's a definition: > An op-ed, short for "opposite the editorial page" or "opinion editorial", is a written prose piece typically published by a newspaper or magazine which expresses the opinion of an author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed

deogeo 8y ago
Just because they put it in the op-ed section doesn't mean they weren't pushing war propaganda.
nytLOL 8y ago
I know what an op-ed is. I guess your point is that they don't fact check op-ed's so it doesn't count? The NYT itself felt it's reporting was bad enough it warranted an apology: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/weekinreview/the-public-editor-weapons-of-mass-destruction-or-mass-distraction.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/weekinreview/the-public-e...
- jessaustin 8y ago
  TFA is a NYT opinion piece...
GarrisonPrime 8y ago
The fact that they published it (or that they didn't publish something) is hard proof of endorsement. If you think it isn't, I can only suggest you have a bizarre concept of reality.
- tivert 8y ago
  > The fact that they published it (or that they didn't publish something) is hard proof of endorsement. No, not at all. It's only proof that it's a point of view they thought their readers should know about. Here's a contemporaneous editorial that expresses a very different view: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/01/opinion/the-bioweapons-enigma.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/01/opinion/the-bioweapons-en.... You can find all kinds of contradictory opinions in the NYT op-ed section, so it'd be nonsense to say the NYT endorses the view of every one (or any particular one) it publishes. > If you think it isn't, I can only suggest you have a bizarre concept of reality. I'd suggest your concept of reality is more bizarre than mine.