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what's your expectations from guns exactly then?

by gcb0 8y ago

samstave 8y ago
I didnt mean it like that - I enjoy guns, and knowing how to use them, be safe with them etc... But pre-internet, actual printed out physical pictures which were developed in a 3-ring binder to a 17-year-old in 1992 was a disturbing dose of reality.
- faces_of_death 8y ago
  I dunno. I think you’re making a big deal out of nothing. This kind of stuff has always been around, even pre-internet. Granted, high school kids in the 90’s enjoyed a bit more shelter, but it was also the heyday of hardcore punk and death metal, and I had tons of friends who reveled in repugnant underground media, especially the rarities that only boutique city shops could supply.
CydeWeys 8y ago
The vast, overwhelming majority of guns in the US are bought for target shooting or hunting, and will never be fired at a human target. So I can totally see feeling blindsided by this.
- gcb0 8y ago
  ironically how there are guns designed exactly for target shooting, for example, the models used by Olympic shooters are even cheaper than some rifles, yet all the people with a gun hobby will promptly ignore those and buy the ones specifically designed to kill people instead, while claiming the killing purpose of gun means nothing to them. sounds like the reasoning of someone buying a yellow hummer because they need a minivan.
  - CydeWeys 8y ago
    To use the car analogy, a lot of people buy cars that are fun to drive. They aren't buying said cars to run people over with.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    I think we need tighter gun control in the US, but I really wish people would stop acting like literally anyone who owns a gun is a dangerous maniac. It's childish and not constructive.
    - krapp 8y ago
      And I wish gun owners would stop ending conversations about gun control by threatening to put me and mine against the wall when the revolution comes. Both sides could stand a dose of empathy and common sense. Its true that not all gun owners are dangerous maniacs, but guns are dangerous and a lot of them are used in crimes by irresponsible people. It's also true that not all advocates for gun control are neo-communists who just want to confiscate all guns and put Christians into camps. Gun policy should just be a public safety issue, but politics and the catch-22 nature of the 2nd Amendment have turned it into an intractable religious war.
      - CydeWeys 8y ago
        Who the hell are you arguing with that makes that kind of threat?! I definitely haven't seen conversations turn to anything like that around here.

what's your expectations from guns exactly then?

by gcb0 8y ago

what's your expectations from guns exactly then?

I didnt mean it like that - I enjoy guns, and knowing how to use them, be safe with them etc... But pre-internet, actual printed out physical pictures which were developed in a 3-ring binder to a 17-year-old in 1992 was a disturbing dose of reality.

faces_of_death 8y ago
I dunno. I think you’re making a big deal out of nothing. This kind of stuff has always been around, even pre-internet. Granted, high school kids in the 90’s enjoyed a bit more shelter, but it was also the heyday of hardcore punk and death metal, and I had tons of friends who reveled in repugnant underground media, especially the rarities that only boutique city shops could supply.

CydeWeys 8y ago

The vast, overwhelming majority of guns in the US are bought for target shooting or hunting, and will never be fired at a human target. So I can totally see feeling blindsided by this.

gcb0 8y ago
ironically how there are guns designed exactly for target shooting, for example, the models used by Olympic shooters are even cheaper than some rifles, yet all the people with a gun hobby will promptly ignore those and buy the ones specifically designed to kill people instead, while claiming the killing purpose of gun means nothing to them. sounds like the reasoning of someone buying a yellow hummer because they need a minivan.
- CydeWeys 8y ago
  To use the car analogy, a lot of people buy cars that are fun to drive. They aren't buying said cars to run people over with.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  I think we need tighter gun control in the US, but I really wish people would stop acting like literally anyone who owns a gun is a dangerous maniac. It's childish and not constructive.
  - krapp 8y ago
    And I wish gun owners would stop ending conversations about gun control by threatening to put me and mine against the wall when the revolution comes. Both sides could stand a dose of empathy and common sense. Its true that not all gun owners are dangerous maniacs, but guns are dangerous and a lot of them are used in crimes by irresponsible people. It's also true that not all advocates for gun control are neo-communists who just want to confiscate all guns and put Christians into camps. Gun policy should just be a public safety issue, but politics and the catch-22 nature of the 2nd Amendment have turned it into an intractable religious war.
    - CydeWeys 8y ago
      Who the hell are you arguing with that makes that kind of threat?! I definitely haven't seen conversations turn to anything like that around here.