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Stating that a country should not exist vs stating a country should be wiped off the map are drastically different things. It's long been known that Iran doesn

Stating that a country should not exist vs stating a country should be wiped off the map are drastically different things. It's long been known that Iran doesn't recognize Israel as a country, just like Israel doesn't recognize Palestine, so there should be no surprise here. I really don't understand why others really think the people of Iran have some overarching goal of attacking Israel and the US versus just trying to live their lives. What will that accomplish them? Iran is a republic and must answer to it's people, which is why they participate in the international community by e.g. following the Non Proliferation Treaty and making trade deals with the rest of the international community. At the end of the day they don't want to be isolated and straddled with hyper inflation from sanctions just like most countries.

danra 8y ago
> Stating that a country should not exist vs stating a country should be wiped off the map are drastically different things. You make the first sound very sterile. Aggressively saying one (a person or country) must not exist is not that far off from saying he must be wiped off, especially if you’re taking actual military steps against that subject. > It's long been known that Iran doesn't recognize Israel as a country just like Israel doesn't recognize Palestine, so there should be no surprise here. Who’s surprised? I just demonstrated the so-called receipts the parent OP said one must show. Regardless, not recognizing something is very different from saying it must not exist and taking steps to advance that desired non-existence. I think the Israeli regime is also evil in not allowing a Palestenian state to exist, even if it’s not Israel’s exclusive fault. > I really don't understand why others really think the people of Iran have some overarching goal of attacking Israel and the US versus just trying to live their lives. What will that accomplish them? I think it’s clear we are talking about the regimes here, not “the people”. Especially in autocratic Iran. > Iran is a republic and must answer to it's people False. [1] > de jure: Unitary Khomeinist presidential Islamic republic > de facto: Theocratic-republican authoritarian unitary presidential republic subject to a Supreme Leader [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

danra 8y ago

> Stating that a country should not exist vs stating a country should be wiped off the map are drastically different things. You make the first sound very sterile. Aggressively saying one (a person or country) must not exist is not that far off from saying he must be wiped off, especially if you’re taking actual military steps against that subject. > It's long been known that Iran doesn't recognize Israel as a country just like Israel doesn't recognize Palestine, so there should be no surprise here. Who’s surprised? I just demonstrated the so-called receipts the parent OP said one must show. Regardless, not recognizing something is very different from saying it must not exist and taking steps to advance that desired non-existence. I think the Israeli regime is also evil in not allowing a Palestenian state to exist, even if it’s not Israel’s exclusive fault. > I really don't understand why others really think the people of Iran have some overarching goal of attacking Israel and the US versus just trying to live their lives. What will that accomplish them? I think it’s clear we are talking about the regimes here, not “the people”. Especially in autocratic Iran. > Iran is a republic and must answer to it's people False. [1] > de jure: Unitary Khomeinist presidential Islamic republic > de facto: Theocratic-republican authoritarian unitary presidential republic subject to a Supreme Leader [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran