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This makes no sense. We mandated airbags and safety belts in cars and we should mandate SawStop or similar in tools like this. To me that's what "advanced" soci

This makes no sense. We mandated airbags and safety belts in cars and we should mandate SawStop or similar in tools like this. To me that's what "advanced" societies do and I call it progress. The cost will also go down with higher volumes. I used to work for a chainsaw manufacturer and we had devices on all saws without exception that would prevent injury in case of a kickback. Once this is part of all designs the cost is negligible.

cmroanirgo 8y ago
My brother is a Joiner, and had laboriously educated me (usually by being shouted & screamed at) when I'm doing dumb things on his panel saw. I asked him one day about saw stop and his comment was surprising. 1. Good workshop behaviour is always safe. 2. The blade is all but destroyed in stopping so quickly. (A small price to pay, really) 3. He cited places that used saw stops had the highest levels of work place accidents... Which increased after having them installed... I think he mentioned that yes, no fingers lost though. So, i think this device is wonderful, but can have nearly equally dire consequences, because it seems to breed poor safety.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  I don't know how good SawStop is exactly but destroying a blade is probably better than losing a finger. Otherwise we could argue that airbags are bad because we need new steering wheels after.
fixvzbdjzis 8y ago
His point is that a car is more like a toaster then a table saw: most drivers are terrible at driving and they don’t care to improve. Take for comparison a motorcycle rider. A bike forces you to be more involved and most riders have a passion for riding most drivers don’t (most N.America riders are promarily recreational riders, not computers) . As a result air bags (they exist), abs, full body protection and helmets aren’t mandated. In fact, it’s kinda silly [1] to require a person with a motorcycle endorsement to wear a seatbelt < were he riding with all his gear on the most advanced bike, he’d still be less safe than w/out protection in the worst car. [1] of course enforcements a whole other issue

cmroanirgo 8y ago

My brother is a Joiner, and had laboriously educated me (usually by being shouted & screamed at) when I'm doing dumb things on his panel saw. I asked him one day about saw stop and his comment was surprising. 1. Good workshop behaviour is always safe. 2. The blade is all but destroyed in stopping so quickly. (A small price to pay, really) 3. He cited places that used saw stops had the highest levels of work place accidents... Which increased after having them installed... I think he mentioned that yes, no fingers lost though. So, i think this device is wonderful, but can have nearly equally dire consequences, because it seems to breed poor safety.

maxxxxx 8y ago
I don't know how good SawStop is exactly but destroying a blade is probably better than losing a finger. Otherwise we could argue that airbags are bad because we need new steering wheels after.

fixvzbdjzis 8y ago

His point is that a car is more like a toaster then a table saw: most drivers are terrible at driving and they don’t care to improve. Take for comparison a motorcycle rider. A bike forces you to be more involved and most riders have a passion for riding most drivers don’t (most N.America riders are promarily recreational riders, not computers) . As a result air bags (they exist), abs, full body protection and helmets aren’t mandated. In fact, it’s kinda silly [1] to require a person with a motorcycle endorsement to wear a seatbelt < were he riding with all his gear on the most advanced bike, he’d still be less safe than w/out protection in the worst car. [1] of course enforcements a whole other issue