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the government of Argentina has also been very welcoming and expedient with Venezuelan migrants, turning around documentation for the ability to work in as quic

the government of Argentina has also been very welcoming and expedient with Venezuelan migrants, turning around documentation for the ability to work in as quickly as 2 weeks. here's a decent presentation (english): https://robuenosaires.iom.int/sites/default/files/Informes/National_Migration_Trends_Venezuela_in_the_Americas.pdf https://robuenosaires.iom.int/sites/default/files/Informes/N...

noir_lord 8y ago
Meanwhile my country seems determined to wreck it's medium term outlook to get back powers it never have up because of a xenophobic reaction to immigration which was in total a net benefit. It's damn embarrassing.
- dominotw 8y ago
  Half my country of billion ppl will be in USA if they have open borders :D .
  - siffland 8y ago
    Half of a lot of countries would be here to live the american dream. Problem is with open borders and that big of an influx of people the American dream would be watered down. America was built on immigration and the process should be refined to be easier, however there has to be a sustainable limit per year. Can you imagine if the Governemt here gave free healthcare to all and then opened the borders. The country would sink. I hope Colombia can handle the influx of people. If not i hope international aide can work to give assistance. I am ignorant here, do Colombia and Venezuela speak the same dialect of spanish? I.E. are there communication issues (We have someone here from Mexico and someone from Puerto Rico and some things get lost in translation i am told).
    - mxuribe 8y ago
      Unless there are any hyper-local slang terms, there should be no communication issues. An analogy from an American perspective: it would be like someone from NJ speaking with someone from Georgia. Yeah, there might be mild differences - e.g. soda vs pop - but overall it is the same Spanish. EDIT: I mean "Georgia" the state in USA, and not the country.
    - maximente 8y ago
      Argentinian Spanish (or Castellano as it is proudly called) is pretty unique but there's absolutely no issues communicating from any other Spanish speaking nation. the issue is the same across all Spanish dialects, each country has unique words and phrases (the word for pineapple is different here vs. rest of Spanish speaking world, one of many examples) and occasionally slightly distinct grammar (e.g. voseo). people are generally able to quickly infer that other Spanish speakers are not native due to accents and vocabulary/grammar. if you're American, think about how you'd react if you heard someone say "mate" in a foreign accent: you'd know they weren't American but may be British, Australian, New Zealander, ... (??)
Diederich 8y ago
That's interesting. I looked at the link and didn't see reference to 'ability work as quickly as 2 weeks'. Did I miss it, or do you have another reference? Thanks.
- cptaj 8y ago
  I'm a Venezuelan myself and while I haven't migrated yet, I have tons of friends who have. The claim is probably true but the timelines I've heard are more around the 3 weeks mark. I feel the point still stands though. Migration in latin america has some advantages akin to the eurozone. You can even travel without a passport through land and most countries will issue working permits in a few weeks.
- maximente 8y ago
  that part was from friends who have immigrated here, so personal reference, ha. you may be able to find something if you speak Spanish but i have not looked. as the other reply said, it may fluctuate somewhat.
  - Diederich 8y ago
    Thank you very much.
    - maximente 8y ago
      of course! if i can help in any other way, let me know.
conanbatt 8y ago
Argentina is and always will be very welcoming of immigrants: it's in the introduction of our constitution. "...secure the benefits of freedom, for us, our posterity and for all men of the world that wish to inhabit Argentinian soil..."
- drak0n1c 8y ago
  Interesting facet of the policy - even wanted Nazi party members were allowed to migrate to Argentina after the war, and oftentimes extradition requests were refused. Combine that with close relations with Israel, and that is why Argentina became famous for international Nazi-hunting intrigue both historically and in fiction. https://www.jweekly.com/1995/09/01/argentine-court-blocks-top-nazi-s-extradition-to-italy/ https://www.jweekly.com/1995/09/01/argentine-court-blocks-to...
  - conanbatt 8y ago
    Coincidentally, the famous Schindler also emigrated to Argentina. Jews and Nazis alike went to argentina. It also helped that argentina in the 1920's was the richest country in the world, and it has the size of most of europe while it had almost no people.

noir_lord 8y ago

Meanwhile my country seems determined to wreck it's medium term outlook to get back powers it never have up because of a xenophobic reaction to immigration which was in total a net benefit. It's damn embarrassing.

dominotw 8y ago
Half my country of billion ppl will be in USA if they have open borders :D .
- siffland 8y ago
  Half of a lot of countries would be here to live the american dream. Problem is with open borders and that big of an influx of people the American dream would be watered down. America was built on immigration and the process should be refined to be easier, however there has to be a sustainable limit per year. Can you imagine if the Governemt here gave free healthcare to all and then opened the borders. The country would sink. I hope Colombia can handle the influx of people. If not i hope international aide can work to give assistance. I am ignorant here, do Colombia and Venezuela speak the same dialect of spanish? I.E. are there communication issues (We have someone here from Mexico and someone from Puerto Rico and some things get lost in translation i am told).
  - mxuribe 8y ago
    Unless there are any hyper-local slang terms, there should be no communication issues. An analogy from an American perspective: it would be like someone from NJ speaking with someone from Georgia. Yeah, there might be mild differences - e.g. soda vs pop - but overall it is the same Spanish. EDIT: I mean "Georgia" the state in USA, and not the country.
  - maximente 8y ago
    Argentinian Spanish (or Castellano as it is proudly called) is pretty unique but there's absolutely no issues communicating from any other Spanish speaking nation. the issue is the same across all Spanish dialects, each country has unique words and phrases (the word for pineapple is different here vs. rest of Spanish speaking world, one of many examples) and occasionally slightly distinct grammar (e.g. voseo). people are generally able to quickly infer that other Spanish speakers are not native due to accents and vocabulary/grammar. if you're American, think about how you'd react if you heard someone say "mate" in a foreign accent: you'd know they weren't American but may be British, Australian, New Zealander, ... (??)

Diederich 8y ago

That's interesting. I looked at the link and didn't see reference to 'ability work as quickly as 2 weeks'. Did I miss it, or do you have another reference? Thanks.

cptaj 8y ago
I'm a Venezuelan myself and while I haven't migrated yet, I have tons of friends who have. The claim is probably true but the timelines I've heard are more around the 3 weeks mark. I feel the point still stands though. Migration in latin america has some advantages akin to the eurozone. You can even travel without a passport through land and most countries will issue working permits in a few weeks.
maximente 8y ago
that part was from friends who have immigrated here, so personal reference, ha. you may be able to find something if you speak Spanish but i have not looked. as the other reply said, it may fluctuate somewhat.
- Diederich 8y ago
  Thank you very much.
  - maximente 8y ago
    of course! if i can help in any other way, let me know.

conanbatt 8y ago

Argentina is and always will be very welcoming of immigrants: it's in the introduction of our constitution. "...secure the benefits of freedom, for us, our posterity and for all men of the world that wish to inhabit Argentinian soil..."

drak0n1c 8y ago
Interesting facet of the policy - even wanted Nazi party members were allowed to migrate to Argentina after the war, and oftentimes extradition requests were refused. Combine that with close relations with Israel, and that is why Argentina became famous for international Nazi-hunting intrigue both historically and in fiction. https://www.jweekly.com/1995/09/01/argentine-court-blocks-top-nazi-s-extradition-to-italy/ https://www.jweekly.com/1995/09/01/argentine-court-blocks-to...
- conanbatt 8y ago
  Coincidentally, the famous Schindler also emigrated to Argentina. Jews and Nazis alike went to argentina. It also helped that argentina in the 1920's was the richest country in the world, and it has the size of most of europe while it had almost no people.