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Yes I noticed that too. It made me think that (a) it was somehow ok to do this to (especially to children), and (b) what other non-photographed atrocities were

Yes I noticed that too. It made me think that (a) it was somehow ok to do this to (especially to children), and (b) what other non-photographed atrocities were committed and never spoken of.

ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
It was very common until late 1980's in Australia to shoot and kill aboriginal children who would wander into your property. The Australian government paid ₤5 to kill an adult and ₤2 to kill a child during the Black War. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ajzbia/til_the_black_war_was_a_period_of_violent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ajzbia/til_t... The killings were legal till the 60's and then overlooked till the 80's. Last year a guy was acquitted by the court even after murdering 4 aboriginal children due to double jeopardy laws. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/13/bowraville-murders-court-rejects-retrial-bid-over-aboriginal-childrens-deaths https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/13/bowra...
- lucozade 8y ago
  > The killings were legal till the 60's That's an astonishing statement. Could you elaborate? The Aboriginal population has been treated heinously since European settlement but that's a, literally, incredible claim.
  - ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
    Have close friends who are married to Australians. It was common knowledge that out in the bush, it was quite frequent to shoot Aboriginals who would wander into your land. Australia had similar gun laws as US and it only changed after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Also Aboriginals do not have the concept of land ownership and hence wouldn't understand the concept of trespassing, especially the kids. Here is a list of known massacres: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenou... I spent some time in Queensland and the lawyers told me point blank that courts would hardly rule in favor of "Non Europeans" even for criminal/personal injury cases and that's why a huge percentage of civil/injury liabilities are settled out of court.
    - lucozade 8y ago
      I see. So you have no basis for the claim. I genuinely don’t see why you’d make something like that up when the truth is awful enough. But I’m sure you have your reasons.
      - ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Australian_referendum_(Aboriginals) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Australian_referendum_(... They were counted in the population as "humans" only 5 years after this referendum. Besides the law was such that you could kill Intruders on your land and this invariably meant murdering the aboriginals
m0skit0 8y ago
Back then African people were basically considered evolved apes but definitely not humans, at least not the same concept used for Europeans. They were even kept in zoos in Europe[1]. The USA also extensively used eugenics[2] to try to purify the race, which was a huge inspiration for the Nazis and their "final solution". Social Darwinism[3] at its best. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism

Yes I noticed that too. It made me think that (a) it was somehow ok to do this to (especially to children), and (b) what other non-photographed atrocities were committed and never spoken of.

ganeshkrishnan 8y ago

It was very common until late 1980's in Australia to shoot and kill aboriginal children who would wander into your property. The Australian government paid ₤5 to kill an adult and ₤2 to kill a child during the Black War. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ajzbia/til_the_black_war_was_a_period_of_violent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ajzbia/til_t... The killings were legal till the 60's and then overlooked till the 80's. Last year a guy was acquitted by the court even after murdering 4 aboriginal children due to double jeopardy laws. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/13/bowraville-murders-court-rejects-retrial-bid-over-aboriginal-childrens-deaths https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/13/bowra...

lucozade 8y ago
> The killings were legal till the 60's That's an astonishing statement. Could you elaborate? The Aboriginal population has been treated heinously since European settlement but that's a, literally, incredible claim.
- ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
  Have close friends who are married to Australians. It was common knowledge that out in the bush, it was quite frequent to shoot Aboriginals who would wander into your land. Australia had similar gun laws as US and it only changed after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Also Aboriginals do not have the concept of land ownership and hence wouldn't understand the concept of trespassing, especially the kids. Here is a list of known massacres: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenou... I spent some time in Queensland and the lawyers told me point blank that courts would hardly rule in favor of "Non Europeans" even for criminal/personal injury cases and that's why a huge percentage of civil/injury liabilities are settled out of court.
  - lucozade 8y ago
    I see. So you have no basis for the claim. I genuinely don’t see why you’d make something like that up when the truth is awful enough. But I’m sure you have your reasons.
    - ganeshkrishnan 8y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Australian_referendum_(Aboriginals) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Australian_referendum_(... They were counted in the population as "humans" only 5 years after this referendum. Besides the law was such that you could kill Intruders on your land and this invariably meant murdering the aboriginals

m0skit0 8y ago

Back then African people were basically considered evolved apes but definitely not humans, at least not the same concept used for Europeans. They were even kept in zoos in Europe[1]. The USA also extensively used eugenics[2] to try to purify the race, which was a huge inspiration for the Nazis and their "final solution". Social Darwinism[3] at its best. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism