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Completely agree with you sentiment. In the cryptocurrency world, a whale is referred to some that owns a lot of a cryptocurrency because they 'make a splash' i

Completely agree with you sentiment. In the cryptocurrency world, a whale is referred to some that owns a lot of a cryptocurrency because they 'make a splash' in the ecosystem. Getting kind of tired seeing daily Facebook posts on HN

ilikehurdles 8y ago
Everyone knows what whale means in the context of sales and marketing. I feel like this thread is missing the forest for the trees. It’s the immorality of trying to get young children hooked on gambling that people are angry about, not that they’re being equated to the mammal.
- miguelmota 8y ago
  I'd argue it's bad parenting and lack of education. Don't parent's realize you can get notifications when ever there is a charge on a credit card? Why would you give your child who has no concept of financial responsibility a credit card? Businesses will always try to profit maximize. Not stating what Facebook is doing is right or wrong because that's subjective depending from which perspective you look at it but the root of the problem is not Facebook itself; it's people using Facebook.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    When Facebook exploits a child who has bad parents, there are two roots to the problem. If facebook thinks children with bad parents are fair game (they obviously do) then they are deeply immoral.
    - miguelmota 8y ago
      Define "deeply immoral". I'm sure we'll have different interpretations and so do many others (obviously). Completely disagree that there are two root problems. It's still one and that's the parents. Media and social companies are not obligated to tailor to bad parents.
      - darkpuma 8y ago
        I think you've been hitting the libertarian juice a bit too hard if you need somebody to explain why exploiting children is morally wrong.
        miguelmota 8y ago
        Define "morally wrong". You're failing to understand that people with differing principles doesn't make yours any more 'correct'. Getting mad at Facebook for allowing kids to perform in-app purchases is like getting mad at McDonalds for allowing kids to purchase junk food. Unless you of course think that McDonalds is "exploiting children" as well when parents take them in the restaurant, then we don't have much to debate here.
        darkpuma 8y ago
        > Define "morally wrong". Yeah, you hit that libertarian sauce way too hard. Stop worshiping money and relearn how to respect humans.
        miguelmota 8y ago
        Thanks for sharing your perspective and beating around the bush. Feel free to keep blaming corporations for bad parenting and lack of responsibility for their own children. Would recommend that you start worshipping money yourself so you can buy yourself a better education. Maybe then you'll stop telling people how to live their lives in a way that tailors to ignorance. Cheers.
Lio 8y ago
Lots us are fed up with seeing almost daily posts about the dodgy behaviour that Facebook employees get up. The solution would be for Facebook employees to stop doing this kind of thing on an almost daily basis. If Facebook the corporation can't or won't control its behaviour because its first loyalty is to maximise shareholder value then it's up to various governments to get together and sort out some kind of regulation.

ilikehurdles 8y ago

Everyone knows what whale means in the context of sales and marketing. I feel like this thread is missing the forest for the trees. It’s the immorality of trying to get young children hooked on gambling that people are angry about, not that they’re being equated to the mammal.

miguelmota 8y ago
I'd argue it's bad parenting and lack of education. Don't parent's realize you can get notifications when ever there is a charge on a credit card? Why would you give your child who has no concept of financial responsibility a credit card? Businesses will always try to profit maximize. Not stating what Facebook is doing is right or wrong because that's subjective depending from which perspective you look at it but the root of the problem is not Facebook itself; it's people using Facebook.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  When Facebook exploits a child who has bad parents, there are two roots to the problem. If facebook thinks children with bad parents are fair game (they obviously do) then they are deeply immoral.
  - miguelmota 8y ago
    Define "deeply immoral". I'm sure we'll have different interpretations and so do many others (obviously). Completely disagree that there are two root problems. It's still one and that's the parents. Media and social companies are not obligated to tailor to bad parents.
    - darkpuma 8y ago
      I think you've been hitting the libertarian juice a bit too hard if you need somebody to explain why exploiting children is morally wrong.
      - miguelmota 8y ago
        Define "morally wrong". You're failing to understand that people with differing principles doesn't make yours any more 'correct'. Getting mad at Facebook for allowing kids to perform in-app purchases is like getting mad at McDonalds for allowing kids to purchase junk food. Unless you of course think that McDonalds is "exploiting children" as well when parents take them in the restaurant, then we don't have much to debate here.
        darkpuma 8y ago
        > Define "morally wrong". Yeah, you hit that libertarian sauce way too hard. Stop worshiping money and relearn how to respect humans.
        miguelmota 8y ago
        Thanks for sharing your perspective and beating around the bush. Feel free to keep blaming corporations for bad parenting and lack of responsibility for their own children. Would recommend that you start worshipping money yourself so you can buy yourself a better education. Maybe then you'll stop telling people how to live their lives in a way that tailors to ignorance. Cheers.

Lio 8y ago

Lots us are fed up with seeing almost daily posts about the dodgy behaviour that Facebook employees get up. The solution would be for Facebook employees to stop doing this kind of thing on an almost daily basis. If Facebook the corporation can't or won't control its behaviour because its first loyalty is to maximise shareholder value then it's up to various governments to get together and sort out some kind of regulation.