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What I'm curious about is why no mention is made of living across the Hudson (ie New Jersey). I know New Yorkers like to look down on NJ and I guess the Times

• zavulon 16y ago
  It's still a considerable commute.. restaurants/bars/clubs are not nearly as good... then there's art galleries/concerts/other events... etc. Not saying it's a bad place to live, just for 20-somethings those things matter a lot.
  • stewiecat 16y ago
    I lived in Hoboken and worked in Manhattan for years with a shorter commute than most folks who either lived in Manhattan or Brooklyn. 10 minutes apartment->PATH, 11 mins PATH (Hoboken to WTC), 10 minutes WTC-> Wall & Water sts.
• gnosis 16y ago
  Where in NJ? Hoboken, Jersey City, Newark, and Newport are pretty crime-ridden. What neighborhoods would you recommend that are within a 5 to 10 minute walk from a PATH train stop, that are cheaper than Manhattan, and also safe?
  • cletus 16y ago
    Hoboken, Jersey City, Newark, and Newport are pretty crime-ridden. I believe that much like the crime stories about NYC, the crime situation is overstated and/or outdated. Personally I'd suggest around Hoboken or Grove St (in Jersey City).
  • stewiecat 16y ago
    Hoboken is crime-ridden?? I spent 6 years there from 1996-2002 and have friends that still live there and can say that crime is not an issue in almost all of Hoboken. Sure, if you go to the projects on the back end of Hoboken things get rougher, but I never, ever felt unsafe there. Even JC has cleaned up a lot, especially the areas by the PATH trains like Exchange place and Newport.
  • mtsmith85 16y ago
    "Hoboken, Jersey City, Newark, and Newport are pretty crime-ridden." I live in Hoboken, in a part called "The Presidents" which 15 years ago used to be really unsafe. This is one of the worst parts of Hoboken, easily. But it is not anymore, and I'd ask where your facts of "crime ridden" come from. I pay a good amount for a two bedroom condo in a sea of condos. I live a block from the "worst" project in Hoboken, and routinely walk around there at night. Hoboken is not crime ridden.
  • asanwal 16y ago
    Paulus Hook, Exchange Place-area, Journal Square and Newport (all Jersey City) are all quite safe. As you go further from the River, it can get dodgier.
• itg 16y ago
  The idea of living in NJ/working in NYC sounds nice and lots of people with families do it, but as as 20-something in NYC (Brooklyn for me) I thought about it but can't imagine actually doing this. It is nothing to do with appearing "cool" to other people but for practical reasons. Don't underestimate the importance of having a social life and all your friends/co-workers/other connections living in the same area as you. Plus who wants to take the train after every time you go out drinking instead of just walking back to your place. Also, it doesn't seem like the people in the article are looking for any sympathy.
  • mtsmith85 16y ago
    I totally understand this mindset... I had it, too. And so I lived in Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill and paid through the teeth for tiny, mouse infested holes. But, I think that the NYC-to-NJ barrier does tend to be just that, a mindset. Because after all -- you still have to take a train back to Brooklyn, no? And its not like Hoboken doesn't have a street-filling, bar hopping main street. As for friends and what not -- the startup I work for: No one person lives with 15 minutes of another (in the technical team.) NYC is spread out enough that I think it is rare to have a ton of friends living close by, unless you're living in the trendy parts. It has been my experience (after moving to Hoboken) that any "negative" that people perceive about Hoboken is either just made up (they've never visited Hoboken) or, and this I totally understand, is "I don't want to live in Jersey." Which is why I say I'm still a New Yorker.
• raheemm 16y ago
  err... Hoboken, Jersey city are not exactly "affordable" either...