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> The original Iranian Revolution was a reaction to Western meddling and policies. The current regime is there because... The current regime is there precisely

> The original Iranian Revolution was a reaction to Western meddling and policies. The current regime is there because... The current regime is there precisely as a result of the Iranian Revolution. > Please provide a single citation for this statistic. This is an absurd statement. http://global-politics.eu/military-assistance-73-percent-worlds-dictatorships/ http://global-politics.eu/military-assistance-73-percent-wor... I guess I was off by 2%, it's 73% of the world's dictatorships. > The US doesn't need Iran's oil, neither does it need Venezuela's. The US has been a net exporter of oil for a while now. The US shale boom has been in effect for years. It doesn't need the oil itself. But it does need for global oil to be traded in USD in order to help maintain its status as a reserve currency, which is why it still supports the Saudis. There's also U.S. oil companies who rely on the Venezuelan crude and would like to go back into the country and privatize the oil assets[1]. 1 - https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1088414772163461120 https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1088414772163461120

strictnein 8y ago
Nice list. It's good to know that selling a country $29k in goods now equates to "supporting a dictatorship". And written by an expert in the field: > "Rich Whitney is an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey, Illinois Green Party activist and former Green Party candidate for governor." The idea that the US is wanting to overthrow Venezuela for oil is just silly. They output roughly what North Dakota does. I know it sounds cool to claim this, but it's just not reality.
- AsyncAwait 8y ago
  > It's good to know that selling a country $29k in goods now equates to "supporting a dictatorship". It's not just some 'goods', it's military equipment. Also, you purposely picked a country with a low volume, when there are countless others with a much higher one on the list, including the likes of Egypt, Saudi Ariabia, the UAE etc. This is based on the Freedom House report, it's not some data that the author of the piece made up. > The idea that the US is wanting to overthrow Venezuela for oil is just silly. They output roughly what North Dakota does. I already said it has little to do with the output, yet you ignore it because it does not fit with your narrative. Also, how then do you explain the U.S. backed 2002 coup attempt, when Chavez was massively popular at the time? Or are you trying to claim that the U.S. does not in fact 'meddle' in Latin America?
bogomipz 8y ago
>"The current regime is there precisely as a result of the Iranian Revolution" So you are defending you assertion by simply repeating it? You show a complete lack of of understanding of the power structure of Iran and the history of the revolution. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was appointed to be Supreme Leader after the Iranian Revolution. He used the position to consolidate power and shape the judiciary. There current regime is a reflection of this massive consolidation of power and influence. This has continued with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. These have been the only two Supreme Leaders since 1979. The current regime is a reflection of their outsized control, influence and policy over the country. The current regime has very little to do with the ideals of the 1979 revolution and original referendum. You link is laughable - Vietnam, Thailand, Jordan, Afghanistan, Ethiopia are all listed in that chart and none of them are dictatorships. Did you bother to look at the provenance of this? Here: >"About the author: Rich Whitney is an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey, Illinois Green Party activist and former Green Party candidate for governor. >"Origins of images: Facebook, Twitter, Wikimedia, Wikipedia, Flickr, Google, Imageinjection & Pinterest." So an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey compiled some images from social media and "the internet." Brilliant. Perhaps you might read more critically.
- AsyncAwait 8y ago
  > You show a complete lack of of understanding of the power structure of Iran and the history of the revolution. No, what you seem to be trying to do is claim that because the regime that is the result of the Revolution did not deliver on all of its promises when the Revolution started, it is somehow a different regime? Politicians often don't fulfill their promises. Does that make them different? Liars, deceptive manipulators maybe, but they're still them. The reason they were even able to consolidate power was as a result of the revolution that put them there, which is separate from if they delivered on it. You wouldn't claim that Barack Obama is some different president, or an illegitimate one, because he did not deliver on all of his campaign promises would you? > You link is laughable - Vietnam, Thailand, Jordan, Afghanistan, Ethiopia are all listed in that chart and none of them are dictatorships. They're not exactly 'free' countries, are they now? Authoritarian countries would be a better title for you perhaps? > So an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey compiled some images from social media and "the internet." Brilliant. Perhaps you might read more critically. This is based on the Freedom House report of non free countries, it's not some data that the author of the piece made up. In fact there are other reports about it, this is literally just the first link I grabbed.

strictnein 8y ago

Nice list. It's good to know that selling a country $29k in goods now equates to "supporting a dictatorship". And written by an expert in the field: > "Rich Whitney is an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey, Illinois Green Party activist and former Green Party candidate for governor." The idea that the US is wanting to overthrow Venezuela for oil is just silly. They output roughly what North Dakota does. I know it sounds cool to claim this, but it's just not reality.

AsyncAwait 8y ago
> It's good to know that selling a country $29k in goods now equates to "supporting a dictatorship". It's not just some 'goods', it's military equipment. Also, you purposely picked a country with a low volume, when there are countless others with a much higher one on the list, including the likes of Egypt, Saudi Ariabia, the UAE etc. This is based on the Freedom House report, it's not some data that the author of the piece made up. > The idea that the US is wanting to overthrow Venezuela for oil is just silly. They output roughly what North Dakota does. I already said it has little to do with the output, yet you ignore it because it does not fit with your narrative. Also, how then do you explain the U.S. backed 2002 coup attempt, when Chavez was massively popular at the time? Or are you trying to claim that the U.S. does not in fact 'meddle' in Latin America?

bogomipz 8y ago

>"The current regime is there precisely as a result of the Iranian Revolution" So you are defending you assertion by simply repeating it? You show a complete lack of of understanding of the power structure of Iran and the history of the revolution. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was appointed to be Supreme Leader after the Iranian Revolution. He used the position to consolidate power and shape the judiciary. There current regime is a reflection of this massive consolidation of power and influence. This has continued with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. These have been the only two Supreme Leaders since 1979. The current regime is a reflection of their outsized control, influence and policy over the country. The current regime has very little to do with the ideals of the 1979 revolution and original referendum. You link is laughable - Vietnam, Thailand, Jordan, Afghanistan, Ethiopia are all listed in that chart and none of them are dictatorships. Did you bother to look at the provenance of this? Here: >"About the author: Rich Whitney is an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey, Illinois Green Party activist and former Green Party candidate for governor. >"Origins of images: Facebook, Twitter, Wikimedia, Wikipedia, Flickr, Google, Imageinjection & Pinterest." So an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey compiled some images from social media and "the internet." Brilliant. Perhaps you might read more critically.

AsyncAwait 8y ago
> You show a complete lack of of understanding of the power structure of Iran and the history of the revolution. No, what you seem to be trying to do is claim that because the regime that is the result of the Revolution did not deliver on all of its promises when the Revolution started, it is somehow a different regime? Politicians often don't fulfill their promises. Does that make them different? Liars, deceptive manipulators maybe, but they're still them. The reason they were even able to consolidate power was as a result of the revolution that put them there, which is separate from if they delivered on it. You wouldn't claim that Barack Obama is some different president, or an illegitimate one, because he did not deliver on all of his campaign promises would you? > You link is laughable - Vietnam, Thailand, Jordan, Afghanistan, Ethiopia are all listed in that chart and none of them are dictatorships. They're not exactly 'free' countries, are they now? Authoritarian countries would be a better title for you perhaps? > So an attorney, actor, radio commentator and disk jockey compiled some images from social media and "the internet." Brilliant. Perhaps you might read more critically. This is based on the Freedom House report of non free countries, it's not some data that the author of the piece made up. In fact there are other reports about it, this is literally just the first link I grabbed.