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True. But another issue I feel with today's internet and apps is that it has lower rate of serendipity Most of our experience is controlled by an all-knowing b

True. But another issue I feel with today's internet and apps is that it has lower rate of serendipity Most of our experience is controlled by an all-knowing black-box algorithms. The game is to converge all experience into a small set of patterns An Example - youtube Earlier I could spend hours on youtube and discover everything from new music to weird funny videos. Today you literally get boxed into a list comprising of your history and recommendations that have hardly 1 degree of separation from your history

crucialfelix 8y ago
Every ML recommender driven website should have a control so you can adjust Straight <> Weird. People would love cranking the weirdness up. Instant dopamine hit (unpredictable reward function) and it would bust them out of their filter bubbles.
- ddalex 8y ago
  But then some kid will see goatx by chance and all the hell will break loose.
  - loneranger_11x 8y ago
    ^ hah. that is a genuine problem But on a serious note, mature services like youtube/instagram can do it - they know more about me than anyone else. How hard would it to be to filter by age!
  - Mirioron 8y ago
    Let's be fair though, kids ran into that stuff all the time in the past and they turned out mostly fine. I don't see this as big of s problem as the people that get outraged make it sound.
    - dagw 8y ago
      The problem/fear isn't that kids run into this stuff, it's the media/lawyers blowing it out of proportion and negatively affecting the share value of Big Important Companies.
- 1_player 8y ago
  Correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w Getting lost in the weird side of the internet, outside your usual AI-generated recommendations is wonderful. Human generated viralness >> machine learning recommendations. -- A machine learning algorithm walks into a bar. The waiter asks: "What'll you have?", the algorithm responds: "What everyone else is having."

crucialfelix 8y ago

Every ML recommender driven website should have a control so you can adjust Straight <> Weird. People would love cranking the weirdness up. Instant dopamine hit (unpredictable reward function) and it would bust them out of their filter bubbles.

ddalex 8y ago
But then some kid will see goatx by chance and all the hell will break loose.
- loneranger_11x 8y ago
  ^ hah. that is a genuine problem But on a serious note, mature services like youtube/instagram can do it - they know more about me than anyone else. How hard would it to be to filter by age!
- Mirioron 8y ago
  Let's be fair though, kids ran into that stuff all the time in the past and they turned out mostly fine. I don't see this as big of s problem as the people that get outraged make it sound.
  - dagw 8y ago
    The problem/fear isn't that kids run into this stuff, it's the media/lawyers blowing it out of proportion and negatively affecting the share value of Big Important Companies.
1_player 8y ago
Correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w Getting lost in the weird side of the internet, outside your usual AI-generated recommendations is wonderful. Human generated viralness >> machine learning recommendations. -- A machine learning algorithm walks into a bar. The waiter asks: "What'll you have?", the algorithm responds: "What everyone else is having."