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That analyst seems behind the times at best. I can’t remember when I last heard a person say “I love facebook.” Plenty saying “I hate it” though. Maybe he was

That analyst seems behind the times at best. I can’t remember when I last heard a person say “I love facebook.” Plenty saying “I hate it” though. Maybe he was alluding to “are addicted to” or “are manipulated into using?” People don’t use Facebook because they love it. They resent it and but use it, mostly. Which makes me think it’s headed for a steep decline.

yoz-y 8y ago
I think a lot of people do love it. Not the company, of course, but many find the service it provides invaluable. Same goes to WeChat for example, I know quite some people who can't give it enough praise and it is arguably a worse offender than Facebook in all conceivable aspects.
- randomsearch 8y ago
  What kind of things do they love about Facebook? I’d be interested to hear.
  - chillacy 8y ago
    Again, not the company, but the service it provides. Like, I hate flying United but if they offer a cheaper price I'll do it.
  - yoz-y 8y ago
    First thing that comes to mind is Facebook Events, people around me use it all the time to organise birthday parties, moving, weddings and whatnot. Multiple people said to me that they "no longer use facebook but still use Facebook Events because it is great". Another example would be Messenger, at least here it is the only place where really almost everybody is, Whatsapp had that place before but that is Facebook too. And really, since they removed the weird snapchat-like stories thing from Messenger it there is nothing wrong with it, had Facebook not been what it is, I'd probably like it too.
    - randomsearch 8y ago
      The events is an interesting one, there aren't many alternatives if you're setting up a private event and IIRC the facebook event experience was good. I also think "there's nothing wrong with messenger", I don't finds its experience loathsome like Facebook. That said, I also don't "love" it any more than Signal, Whatsapp, iMessage etc. It'll be really interesting to see how the unification of messaging works out - they could "Facebookify " it, I wonder how people will respond if there's a stronger focus on ads.
- feanaro 8y ago
  I would assume people who love WeChat are much more culturally accepting of surveillance given that most of its users are Chinese. Therefore I'm not sure whether a direct comparison makes sense.
  - speedplane 8y ago
    > I would assume people who love WeChat are much more culturally accepting of surveillance Or maybe they have no choice. If car companies only make black cars, it doesn't necessarily mean that black is everyone's favorite color.
    - yoz-y 8y ago
      Concerning networks they do actually, there were several mass migrations from service to service in China, QQ, RenRen, Weibo, now WeChat. If anything it seems that trendiness trumps the network effect. Now that they have added payments the hurdle might be larger though. But, in the end all of them are monitored so there is no choice there. The main argument/excuse for acceptance seems to be that it is better to be spied on by your own government than somebody else's.

yoz-y 8y ago

I think a lot of people do love it. Not the company, of course, but many find the service it provides invaluable. Same goes to WeChat for example, I know quite some people who can't give it enough praise and it is arguably a worse offender than Facebook in all conceivable aspects.

randomsearch 8y ago
What kind of things do they love about Facebook? I’d be interested to hear.
- chillacy 8y ago
  Again, not the company, but the service it provides. Like, I hate flying United but if they offer a cheaper price I'll do it.
- yoz-y 8y ago
  First thing that comes to mind is Facebook Events, people around me use it all the time to organise birthday parties, moving, weddings and whatnot. Multiple people said to me that they "no longer use facebook but still use Facebook Events because it is great". Another example would be Messenger, at least here it is the only place where really almost everybody is, Whatsapp had that place before but that is Facebook too. And really, since they removed the weird snapchat-like stories thing from Messenger it there is nothing wrong with it, had Facebook not been what it is, I'd probably like it too.
  - randomsearch 8y ago
    The events is an interesting one, there aren't many alternatives if you're setting up a private event and IIRC the facebook event experience was good. I also think "there's nothing wrong with messenger", I don't finds its experience loathsome like Facebook. That said, I also don't "love" it any more than Signal, Whatsapp, iMessage etc. It'll be really interesting to see how the unification of messaging works out - they could "Facebookify " it, I wonder how people will respond if there's a stronger focus on ads.
feanaro 8y ago
I would assume people who love WeChat are much more culturally accepting of surveillance given that most of its users are Chinese. Therefore I'm not sure whether a direct comparison makes sense.
- speedplane 8y ago
  > I would assume people who love WeChat are much more culturally accepting of surveillance Or maybe they have no choice. If car companies only make black cars, it doesn't necessarily mean that black is everyone's favorite color.
  - yoz-y 8y ago
    Concerning networks they do actually, there were several mass migrations from service to service in China, QQ, RenRen, Weibo, now WeChat. If anything it seems that trendiness trumps the network effect. Now that they have added payments the hurdle might be larger though. But, in the end all of them are monitored so there is no choice there. The main argument/excuse for acceptance seems to be that it is better to be spied on by your own government than somebody else's.