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I wonder if there is a way to combine the weird fun that was geocities/tripod/etc with the connections of a social network and modern ease of updating. Like how

I wonder if there is a way to combine the weird fun that was geocities/tripod/etc with the connections of a social network and modern ease of updating. Like how you use twitter, but for following webpages about butterflies or a shrine to the 6502 processor.

noir_lord 8y ago
RSS - (partially) Google killed it. My first website was about about TNG and why DS9 sucked balls. Ironic since I now consider DS9 the better series (but TNG still has the truly stand out episodes, I think young me was just oblivious to a lot of the subtler stuff but I digress), it was shockingly bad (and I'd been programming since the 80's, HTML was just weird). I spent about five years hating the crap out of it and never even considered web development as a career, if you'd have asked me back then I'd have said you'd claw the compiler out of my cold dead hands. 20 odd-years later and I do enterprise web dev (and C#/WPF and Java)
- JetSpiegel 8y ago
  RSS is alive, and for dumb sites there are hacks such as https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge/- https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge/-
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    You have a trailing - and also neat!.
  - taborj 8y ago
    I love RSS-Bridge. I have a local instance running, and it saves me from having to sign up with Twitter, Instagram, etc. Also, tt-rss is an excellent reader.
    - brokenmachine 8y ago
      I was interested in tt-rss until I tried it out and there was a problem with the Android app. I checked the forums for a solution... If you do check out the forums for it you will very quickly see that the developer is a massive asshole. I wouldn't trust any code that a person like that writes to run on my machine.
      - EvanAnderson 8y ago
        I forked tt-rss back in 2005 for my personal use after I tried to submit a few patches that didn't "align well" w/ the developer. I wouldn't go so far as to say "massive asshole", but he did seem to be a challenge to deal with. I decided it wasn't worth the effort to try to contribute back my changes.
- shrikrishna 8y ago
  I was able to enjoy TNG from the get go. It's one of the few shows where the stories have any depth. Although I did start watching it when I was in my twenties, so that could have been a factor in being able to pick up on the subtler themes
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    I watched TNG as it aired, that and Quantum Leap where my favourites as a kid at a time when UK TV was four channels and sci-fi was rare.
smacktoward 8y ago
What you want is ActivityPub: https://activitypub.rocks/ https://activitypub.rocks/ It's the underlying protocol that connects the various federated services in the "Fediverse", (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse) like Mastodon, PeerTube, NextCloud, etc. At root it's just a standardized way for nodes in a network to send messages to each other, though, so you could use it to get those "connections of a social network" you're looking for. And then Mastodon users, say, could get updates/notifications from your site/service/whatever right in their feed.
bencollier49 8y ago
Tumblr?
- riffraff 8y ago
  This. Weird and fun I exactly how I see Tumblr.
  - airstrike 8y ago
    That, sprinkled with a bit of CP on top
- runxel 8y ago
  Tumblr gave itself up and will be irrelevant soon.
deathhand 8y ago
Stumbleupon was a good resource for this.
gyrgtyn 8y ago
youall forgot to mention beaker browser.
pitzahoy 8y ago
Bit of a shameless plug... but that's kind of what we're building @ find.xyz. Here's an example of some weird shit in the dessert. https://find.xyz/map/toto-forever https://find.xyz/map/toto-forever Also one on the death of RSS since someone mentioned that https://find.xyz/map/what-happened-to-rss https://find.xyz/map/what-happened-to-rss
- weknowbetter 8y ago
  This website is cool, but I'm honestly a little lost to what exactly it is.
- mceachen 8y ago
  Nice idea! You've got a typo on https://find.xyz/about https://find.xyz/about : s/beatuful/beautiful/g
  - pitzahoy 8y ago
    Ha. Damn. Thanks :)
rchaud 8y ago
Websites have had comments sections since well before social networks took off. Even in the Geocities days, you had "Sign my Guestbook/View my Guestbook". Some truly old-school websites, like Mark Prindle Reviews, included email responses from people who read his work. Trying to shoehorn social media profile integration into this system will eventually end up influencing the content, and once more it'll be a race to the bottom, with everyone posting stuff only for other people's validation. It shouldn't work that way for the 'weird web'.

noir_lord 8y ago

RSS - (partially) Google killed it. My first website was about about TNG and why DS9 sucked balls. Ironic since I now consider DS9 the better series (but TNG still has the truly stand out episodes, I think young me was just oblivious to a lot of the subtler stuff but I digress), it was shockingly bad (and I'd been programming since the 80's, HTML was just weird). I spent about five years hating the crap out of it and never even considered web development as a career, if you'd have asked me back then I'd have said you'd claw the compiler out of my cold dead hands. 20 odd-years later and I do enterprise web dev (and C#/WPF and Java)

JetSpiegel 8y ago
RSS is alive, and for dumb sites there are hacks such as https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge/- https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge/-
- noir_lord 8y ago
  You have a trailing - and also neat!.
- taborj 8y ago
  I love RSS-Bridge. I have a local instance running, and it saves me from having to sign up with Twitter, Instagram, etc. Also, tt-rss is an excellent reader.
  - brokenmachine 8y ago
    I was interested in tt-rss until I tried it out and there was a problem with the Android app. I checked the forums for a solution... If you do check out the forums for it you will very quickly see that the developer is a massive asshole. I wouldn't trust any code that a person like that writes to run on my machine.
    - EvanAnderson 8y ago
      I forked tt-rss back in 2005 for my personal use after I tried to submit a few patches that didn't "align well" w/ the developer. I wouldn't go so far as to say "massive asshole", but he did seem to be a challenge to deal with. I decided it wasn't worth the effort to try to contribute back my changes.
shrikrishna 8y ago
I was able to enjoy TNG from the get go. It's one of the few shows where the stories have any depth. Although I did start watching it when I was in my twenties, so that could have been a factor in being able to pick up on the subtler themes
- noir_lord 8y ago
  I watched TNG as it aired, that and Quantum Leap where my favourites as a kid at a time when UK TV was four channels and sci-fi was rare.

smacktoward 8y ago

What you want is ActivityPub: https://activitypub.rocks/ https://activitypub.rocks/ It's the underlying protocol that connects the various federated services in the "Fediverse", (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse) like Mastodon, PeerTube, NextCloud, etc. At root it's just a standardized way for nodes in a network to send messages to each other, though, so you could use it to get those "connections of a social network" you're looking for. And then Mastodon users, say, could get updates/notifications from your site/service/whatever right in their feed.

bencollier49 8y ago

Tumblr?

riffraff 8y ago
This. Weird and fun I exactly how I see Tumblr.
- airstrike 8y ago
  That, sprinkled with a bit of CP on top
runxel 8y ago
Tumblr gave itself up and will be irrelevant soon.

deathhand 8y ago

Stumbleupon was a good resource for this.

gyrgtyn 8y ago

youall forgot to mention beaker browser.

pitzahoy 8y ago

Bit of a shameless plug... but that's kind of what we're building @ find.xyz. Here's an example of some weird shit in the dessert. https://find.xyz/map/toto-forever https://find.xyz/map/toto-forever Also one on the death of RSS since someone mentioned that https://find.xyz/map/what-happened-to-rss https://find.xyz/map/what-happened-to-rss

weknowbetter 8y ago
This website is cool, but I'm honestly a little lost to what exactly it is.
mceachen 8y ago
Nice idea! You've got a typo on https://find.xyz/about https://find.xyz/about : s/beatuful/beautiful/g
- pitzahoy 8y ago
  Ha. Damn. Thanks :)

rchaud 8y ago

Websites have had comments sections since well before social networks took off. Even in the Geocities days, you had "Sign my Guestbook/View my Guestbook". Some truly old-school websites, like Mark Prindle Reviews, included email responses from people who read his work. Trying to shoehorn social media profile integration into this system will eventually end up influencing the content, and once more it'll be a race to the bottom, with everyone posting stuff only for other people's validation. It shouldn't work that way for the 'weird web'.