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Why do you want any of those things to run inside a browser? Those all sound like great candidates for being actual installed software. Do we even remember how

Why do you want any of those things to run inside a browser? Those all sound like great candidates for being actual installed software. Do we even remember how to write that? This everything-is-a-website mentality is a disaster for privacy, security, and the future of decentralized general-purpose computing.

coding123 8y ago
Both Java and C# tried to break the web (silverlight and Java FX) and both ended up being considerable failures. We still don't have a reasonably easy way to write cross-platform applications (Mac/Win/Lin/Phone) in a native-first language. The reason JS has taken off is because it filled a rather HUGE hole. If there is a chance that is changing, let us know, but right now, the hole isn't being filled with anything else.
- perrylaj 8y ago
  JavaFX is a GUI toolkit. It does allow the use of CSS for design, but is nothing like silver light, flash, etc. It's not mean to run in a browser at all. You probably meant Java applets?
crooked-v 8y ago
> Why do you want any of those things to run inside a browser? Those all sound like great candidates for being actual installed software. The point is to remove the need to install things. > security An image editor that runs entirely in the browser and only has sandboxed access to open and save dialogs is more secure by miles than running a random .msi installer.
plorntus 8y ago
Many reasons why: - Convenience of just going to a site and not installing anything. - Cross platform, if you have a browser most web apps will work. - Being relatively certain that by just visiting a web app you're not going to end up with malware or other unwanted software - Being able to access your app from other locations without admin access. - Updates are ready and available instantly There are of course many many more benefits. I get that not everything has to be a web app but it's disingenuous to imply that they have no use cases.

coding123 8y ago

Both Java and C# tried to break the web (silverlight and Java FX) and both ended up being considerable failures. We still don't have a reasonably easy way to write cross-platform applications (Mac/Win/Lin/Phone) in a native-first language. The reason JS has taken off is because it filled a rather HUGE hole. If there is a chance that is changing, let us know, but right now, the hole isn't being filled with anything else.

perrylaj 8y ago
JavaFX is a GUI toolkit. It does allow the use of CSS for design, but is nothing like silver light, flash, etc. It's not mean to run in a browser at all. You probably meant Java applets?

crooked-v 8y ago

> Why do you want any of those things to run inside a browser? Those all sound like great candidates for being actual installed software. The point is to remove the need to install things. > security An image editor that runs entirely in the browser and only has sandboxed access to open and save dialogs is more secure by miles than running a random .msi installer.

plorntus 8y ago

Many reasons why: - Convenience of just going to a site and not installing anything. - Cross platform, if you have a browser most web apps will work. - Being relatively certain that by just visiting a web app you're not going to end up with malware or other unwanted software - Being able to access your app from other locations without admin access. - Updates are ready and available instantly There are of course many many more benefits. I get that not everything has to be a web app but it's disingenuous to imply that they have no use cases.