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What is the problem here? They are literally paying users to get their data. Seems like a fair tradeoff right?

blub 8y ago
The problem is some things should not be for sale at all, otherwise we end up in some kind of undignified nightmare of a society. Human beings, body parts, privacy, those kind of things.
- product50 8y ago
  I think you need to recognize that for many people body parts and privacy are two extreme ends of the spectrum which they are willing to part for money. Honestly, I don’t get what is the issue with users literally opting into (for money) this service by Facebook and be willing to share what they are doing on their mobile device with them.
  - blub 8y ago
    Many replies on this topic remind me of that joke with the wife that sends her programmer husband to buy eggs. As if we're having some silly contest where the smallest ambiguity or contradiction in criticizing Facebook completely negates their aberrant and anti-social behaviour. Obviously it's not the same thing, that was a list, a category of things which are in some way similar. If I include a dog, hippo and human in a list of creatures, would you complain that a human is not a dog? The issue is, they are selling something which they can never get back for a pittance, and that something can come back and harm them at any point for the rest of their lives. There is a reason privacy is a human right, its loss can deeply affect the lives of those that forfeit it or have it abused.
- the_reformation 8y ago
  And who will make this decision for me? You?
  - jasonlfunk 8y ago
    You, of course. No one is arguing that you should be forced to sell your privacy.
    - berti 8y ago
      Except it’s a very one-sided deal when “you” doesn’t fully understand (or even begin to understand) what’s being given up. Find me five people off the street who can explain the implications of tapping yes to install that root cert.
  - blub 8y ago
    Many countries have codified the legal concept that persons can't sign away their rights, to avoid predatory contracts, like the one Facebook's bribing teens with $20 to accept. Any such contract is void. Privacy is also a human right, as declared in the universal declaration of human rights. I'll let you put 1 and 1 together.

blub 8y ago

The problem is some things should not be for sale at all, otherwise we end up in some kind of undignified nightmare of a society. Human beings, body parts, privacy, those kind of things.

product50 8y ago
I think you need to recognize that for many people body parts and privacy are two extreme ends of the spectrum which they are willing to part for money. Honestly, I don’t get what is the issue with users literally opting into (for money) this service by Facebook and be willing to share what they are doing on their mobile device with them.
- blub 8y ago
  Many replies on this topic remind me of that joke with the wife that sends her programmer husband to buy eggs. As if we're having some silly contest where the smallest ambiguity or contradiction in criticizing Facebook completely negates their aberrant and anti-social behaviour. Obviously it's not the same thing, that was a list, a category of things which are in some way similar. If I include a dog, hippo and human in a list of creatures, would you complain that a human is not a dog? The issue is, they are selling something which they can never get back for a pittance, and that something can come back and harm them at any point for the rest of their lives. There is a reason privacy is a human right, its loss can deeply affect the lives of those that forfeit it or have it abused.
the_reformation 8y ago
And who will make this decision for me? You?
- jasonlfunk 8y ago
  You, of course. No one is arguing that you should be forced to sell your privacy.
  - berti 8y ago
    Except it’s a very one-sided deal when “you” doesn’t fully understand (or even begin to understand) what’s being given up. Find me five people off the street who can explain the implications of tapping yes to install that root cert.
- blub 8y ago
  Many countries have codified the legal concept that persons can't sign away their rights, to avoid predatory contracts, like the one Facebook's bribing teens with $20 to accept. Any such contract is void. Privacy is also a human right, as declared in the universal declaration of human rights. I'll let you put 1 and 1 together.