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> I did say that Google's surveillance system enabled a level of stalking *Google's surveillance system in conjunction with irresponsibly giving one's account

by sridca 8y ago

> I did say that Google's surveillance system enabled a level of stalking *Google's surveillance system in conjunction with irresponsibly giving one's account login to one's ex Fixed that for you.

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fucking_tragedy 8y ago
* Had a device stolen and password stolen either through spying or a key logger. Fixed that for you.
- sridca 8y ago
  In which case, just what is the relevance of your report to kawfey's comment?
  - fucking_tragedy 8y ago
    What was the point of sarcastically dismissing me by making up something that I never said? To answer your question, scroll up two posts, because I already answered it: > However, I did say that Google's surveillance system enabled a level of stalking that's never been this accessible to laymen and nation-states alike.
    - sridca 8y ago
      I did notice what you wrote but you still do not see how you shift blame on to Google (despite careful use of the word "enabled") all the while conveniently ignoring key facts (device stolen, password stolen, etc.) that indicate personal responsibility. If someone stole the key to my house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Did the lock company "enable" the stealing to happen? But then blaming someone/ something else for what one is personally responsible for is as old as humanity.
      - fucking_tragedy 8y ago
        Weird that you continue to straw man my comment after I called you out on making up outright lies. First I'm met with sarcasm and assumptions, next I'm met with condescension and an attempt to straw man my anecdote as a thinly veiled crucifixion of Google. Here is the comment I addressed with my anecdote: > I'm still not convinced that "being tracked" in my day-to-day life is a negative thing. I still don't perceive that my privacy is lost when I use those services. Perhaps context is necessary, or perhaps you should consider why you're so driven to make assumptions about my posts. > If someone stole the key to my house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Did the lock company "enable" the stealing to happen? This is a poor analogy. Before locks, people could still break into your house. Before Google et al., you needed expend significant resources to track a person 24/7 to the nearest 3 meters. As I said in my previous post, fine-grained tracking is more accessible to the general public now than it's ever been before. This was my point.
        sridca 8y ago
        The fact remains that your anecdote bears no relation whatsoever--as in it neither supports nor refutes--kawfey's comment (which you quoted here). Therefore, if it is not "a thinly veiled crucifixion of Google" (as myself and the sibling commenter gathered from your comment) then what is it?
        fucking_tragedy 8y ago
        > The fact remains that your anecdote bears no relation whatsoever--as in it neither supports nor refutes--kawfey's comment Here's the poster's comment: > I'm still not convinced that "being tracked" in my day-to-day life is a negative thing. I provided an anecdote where "being track" in my day-to-day life was a negative thing. I don't believe it's that hard to follow.
        sridca 8y ago
        > I provided an anecdote where "being track[ed]" in my day-to-day life was a negative thing. No, you provided an anecdote where having your "password stolen" (by an abusive ex) was a negative thing. If someone stole the key to your house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Does that make the act of locking, day after day, a negative thing?

by sridca 8y ago

> I did say that Google's surveillance system enabled a level of stalking *Google's surveillance system in conjunction with irresponsibly giving one's account login to one's ex Fixed that for you.

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fucking_tragedy 8y ago

* Had a device stolen and password stolen either through spying or a key logger. Fixed that for you.

sridca 8y ago
In which case, just what is the relevance of your report to kawfey's comment?
- fucking_tragedy 8y ago
  What was the point of sarcastically dismissing me by making up something that I never said? To answer your question, scroll up two posts, because I already answered it: > However, I did say that Google's surveillance system enabled a level of stalking that's never been this accessible to laymen and nation-states alike.
  - sridca 8y ago
    I did notice what you wrote but you still do not see how you shift blame on to Google (despite careful use of the word "enabled") all the while conveniently ignoring key facts (device stolen, password stolen, etc.) that indicate personal responsibility. If someone stole the key to my house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Did the lock company "enable" the stealing to happen? But then blaming someone/ something else for what one is personally responsible for is as old as humanity.
    - fucking_tragedy 8y ago
      Weird that you continue to straw man my comment after I called you out on making up outright lies. First I'm met with sarcasm and assumptions, next I'm met with condescension and an attempt to straw man my anecdote as a thinly veiled crucifixion of Google. Here is the comment I addressed with my anecdote: > I'm still not convinced that "being tracked" in my day-to-day life is a negative thing. I still don't perceive that my privacy is lost when I use those services. Perhaps context is necessary, or perhaps you should consider why you're so driven to make assumptions about my posts. > If someone stole the key to my house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Did the lock company "enable" the stealing to happen? This is a poor analogy. Before locks, people could still break into your house. Before Google et al., you needed expend significant resources to track a person 24/7 to the nearest 3 meters. As I said in my previous post, fine-grained tracking is more accessible to the general public now than it's ever been before. This was my point.
      - sridca 8y ago
        The fact remains that your anecdote bears no relation whatsoever--as in it neither supports nor refutes--kawfey's comment (which you quoted here). Therefore, if it is not "a thinly veiled crucifixion of Google" (as myself and the sibling commenter gathered from your comment) then what is it?
        fucking_tragedy 8y ago
        > The fact remains that your anecdote bears no relation whatsoever--as in it neither supports nor refutes--kawfey's comment Here's the poster's comment: > I'm still not convinced that "being tracked" in my day-to-day life is a negative thing. I provided an anecdote where "being track" in my day-to-day life was a negative thing. I don't believe it's that hard to follow.
        sridca 8y ago
        > I provided an anecdote where "being track[ed]" in my day-to-day life was a negative thing. No, you provided an anecdote where having your "password stolen" (by an abusive ex) was a negative thing. If someone stole the key to your house, and went on to steal important things, is it the fault of the company that makes the locks? Does that make the act of locking, day after day, a negative thing?