a lot of people shit on systemd because of the "SIGHUP"-"bug" however what they don't realize is that there are more use cases where logging out a user SHOULD k

a lot of people shit on systemd because of the "SIGHUP"-"bug" however what they don't realize is that there are more use cases where logging out a user SHOULD kill all users processes. I mean without that behavior linux is not a multi user system. The default is sane, however the lack of "permissions" in this kind is also a little bit bad, however since it is runtime configurable this should be enforced by the distribution, i.e. when installing the distri there should be a switch "this system is only used by a single user". it's basically the same as windows uac. while it looks bad for a single user, it's not that bad when you see computers as a tool which can have more than one user, with more than one "privilege". system just shows that linux is by far not ready for the masses cause a lot of behavior is undefined, like the uid/username stuff. usernames can be created as you wish, but most programs will behave broken if you create usernames that start with a number, it's a security nightmare. and the problem that there is no real process to actually get ALL people together who can solve this, it will never be fixed. there is only the posix standard but not everything applies to linux and not everything is a good idea in the sense of linux. systemd actually makes a lot of things in the right way, but of course it's not perfect and probably at a certain point in time people would come up with something better.