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I'm not a law expert, but IMO FB should seriously lawyer up. I can say that this kind of misconduct would almost certainly end up in court in Germany. A 13 year

I'm not a law expert, but IMO FB should seriously lawyer up. I can say that this kind of misconduct would almost certainly end up in court in Germany. A 13 years old consent with a cryptic data protection policy is not legally binding and luring kids in need of protection with money to give up fundamental rights can be viewed as an act of non-physical abuse.

inetknght 8y ago
All words and rhetoric unless and until someone makes a complaint to the regulatory agency. I'm merely in the US; I'm not sure what agency would even protect my own friends and family from clear abuse.
- iGoog 8y ago
  If you believe Facebook to have violated the law in your state, you can write your Attorney General and ask them to enforce the law or explain how Facebook is not in violation of the law.
anonymous5133 8y ago
I have this app installed on my phone. When you sign up you purposefully have to get consent from an adult to sign up as a minor.
- bencollier49 8y ago
  I'm not sure that works in law. A 13-year-old could click "consent" and not make a contract with FB.
  - Gioni06 8y ago
    I agree. That can also be called "common law" in Germany. Contracts with people who are not entitled to sign contracts on their behalf are not considered legally binding. In that sense, it shall be treated as if there hasn't been a contract at all. The process is purposefully designed to get a signed contract as fast as possible. The technology to make proper ID (Age) verification is available, but my understanding is, that it is not used by facebook and its partners.
    - morpheuskafka 8y ago
      COPPA doesn't require foolproof age verification IIRC, otherwise the regular Facebook app and nearly every app on the planet that just asks for a birth data with no verification would be illegal.
      - Gioni06 8y ago
        That is 100% true. It's a regulatory issue that politics could address. Having no proper age verification is not illegal. I mixed two points here. Contracts that contradict the law and my wish for better regulations.
      - bencollier49 8y ago
        Which I suppose is fine if this app was only installed in the US. Was it?

inetknght 8y ago

All words and rhetoric unless and until someone makes a complaint to the regulatory agency. I'm merely in the US; I'm not sure what agency would even protect my own friends and family from clear abuse.

iGoog 8y ago
If you believe Facebook to have violated the law in your state, you can write your Attorney General and ask them to enforce the law or explain how Facebook is not in violation of the law.

anonymous5133 8y ago

I have this app installed on my phone. When you sign up you purposefully have to get consent from an adult to sign up as a minor.

bencollier49 8y ago
I'm not sure that works in law. A 13-year-old could click "consent" and not make a contract with FB.
- Gioni06 8y ago
  I agree. That can also be called "common law" in Germany. Contracts with people who are not entitled to sign contracts on their behalf are not considered legally binding. In that sense, it shall be treated as if there hasn't been a contract at all. The process is purposefully designed to get a signed contract as fast as possible. The technology to make proper ID (Age) verification is available, but my understanding is, that it is not used by facebook and its partners.
  - morpheuskafka 8y ago
    COPPA doesn't require foolproof age verification IIRC, otherwise the regular Facebook app and nearly every app on the planet that just asks for a birth data with no verification would be illegal.
    - Gioni06 8y ago
      That is 100% true. It's a regulatory issue that politics could address. Having no proper age verification is not illegal. I mixed two points here. Contracts that contradict the law and my wish for better regulations.
    - bencollier49 8y ago
      Which I suppose is fine if this app was only installed in the US. Was it?