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A Cure for Cancer? Israeli Scientists Say They Think They Found One

6 points by longdefeat 8y ago

oblib 8y ago
The science is out of my grasp but the overview given is impressive and sounds promising. I hope it pans out.
- cjbprime 8y ago
  Scientists release press releases claiming to solve cancer (and Alzheimer's, etc) every day, sadly. It's spam. We should not only ignore a single study's press release, but even a single study's paper.
  - oblib 8y ago
    I didn't submit this link and I didn't jump to any kind of conclusion here. It may well be bullshit, but I can think of quite a few instances where claims were made that were cast as bullshit by many so called "experts" that turned out to be true ("Sunscreen" comes to mind) so I won't jump to that conclusion with all of those who love to make those leaps to crap on something or someone without knowing anymore than I do about it. On the other hand, I've seen claims made that everyone "in the know" stood behind that turned out to be complete bullshit (see anyone zooming to work on Segway today?). I think it's pretty telling though that I was down voted for expressing "hope" here even while stating I didn't know enough to substantiate the claim as fact.
    - cjbprime 8y ago
      I think the downvote is reasonable: by expressing credulity you are providing the capital that keeps these spammers in business. The world would be a much better place if the people who write these press releases knew that they were ineffective.
      - oblib 8y ago
        "by expressing credulity" I began my very brief comment with "The science is out of my grasp". It's a stretcher to characterize anything after that as "expressing credulity".
longdefeat 8y ago
"But Dr. Ben Neel, director of Perlmutter Cancer Center at NYU Langone Health, told The Post that 'cancer is multiple diseases, and it is highly unlikely that this company has found a ‘cure’ for cancer any more than there is a single cure for infections.' He said that 'more likely, this claim is yet another in a long line of spurious, irresponsible and ultimately cruel false promises for cancer patients.'" https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/cancer-experts-react-to-claim-about-finding-a-cure-within-a-year/ https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/cancer-experts-react-to-claim-...
- oblib 8y ago
  To be accurate, the guys discussing the process they've been working on did not claim they had a "single cure". What they said is "treatment will eventually be personalized" which is exactly the opposite of a single cure.

6 points by longdefeat 8y ago

oblib 8y ago

The science is out of my grasp but the overview given is impressive and sounds promising. I hope it pans out.

cjbprime 8y ago
Scientists release press releases claiming to solve cancer (and Alzheimer's, etc) every day, sadly. It's spam. We should not only ignore a single study's press release, but even a single study's paper.
- oblib 8y ago
  I didn't submit this link and I didn't jump to any kind of conclusion here. It may well be bullshit, but I can think of quite a few instances where claims were made that were cast as bullshit by many so called "experts" that turned out to be true ("Sunscreen" comes to mind) so I won't jump to that conclusion with all of those who love to make those leaps to crap on something or someone without knowing anymore than I do about it. On the other hand, I've seen claims made that everyone "in the know" stood behind that turned out to be complete bullshit (see anyone zooming to work on Segway today?). I think it's pretty telling though that I was down voted for expressing "hope" here even while stating I didn't know enough to substantiate the claim as fact.
  - cjbprime 8y ago
    I think the downvote is reasonable: by expressing credulity you are providing the capital that keeps these spammers in business. The world would be a much better place if the people who write these press releases knew that they were ineffective.
    - oblib 8y ago
      "by expressing credulity" I began my very brief comment with "The science is out of my grasp". It's a stretcher to characterize anything after that as "expressing credulity".

longdefeat 8y ago

"But Dr. Ben Neel, director of Perlmutter Cancer Center at NYU Langone Health, told The Post that 'cancer is multiple diseases, and it is highly unlikely that this company has found a ‘cure’ for cancer any more than there is a single cure for infections.' He said that 'more likely, this claim is yet another in a long line of spurious, irresponsible and ultimately cruel false promises for cancer patients.'" https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/cancer-experts-react-to-claim-about-finding-a-cure-within-a-year/ https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/cancer-experts-react-to-claim-...

oblib 8y ago
To be accurate, the guys discussing the process they've been working on did not claim they had a "single cure". What they said is "treatment will eventually be personalized" which is exactly the opposite of a single cure.