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It does. Most people I know in SF, including me, don't tip. Waiters here are way more used to it and don't necessarily expect it.

boucher 8y ago
You are simply wrong. It's trivially easy to disprove your several comments about SF tipping culture with a few google searches. Don't confuse the fact that nobody has confronted you for the idea that waiters don't expect you to tip them.
- the_clarence 8y ago
  I live in SF. I don't tip, most of my acquaintances don't tip either.
tareqak 8y ago
I for one wasn't aware of a no-tip culture in San Francisco. I would totally not do it provided I was absolutely sure that this culture was a thing.
- throwaway415415 8y ago
  You should start this in your city! We call "wasters" the waiters that expect a tip here.
  - tareqak 8y ago
    Actually, I'm currently in San Francisco, and I haven't heard anything of the sort. I probably should ask around though.
fencepost 8y ago
If you're in places where non-tipping is expected and the staff are paid based on that, fine. If you're doing this in places where staff pay is determined based on expectation of tips, you may be an exemplar of what people hate about Silicon Valley dudebro culture. It's entirely possible that restaurants in SF have shifted to non-tipping and jacked their prices up to pay higher base wages just because it's so expensive to live anywhere in that area, but in most of the country people in traditionally-tipped positions are often paid significantly below minimum wage (as low as $2.13/hour as the federal minimum, many states are higher). In California the tipped minimum wage at $11/hour is only $1/hour lower than the regular minimum wage, so not tipping may have less impact. Numbers taken from https://www.minimum-wage.org/ https://www.minimum-wage.org/
- throwaway415415 8y ago
  Restaurants in other part of the country will raise someone's paycheck if the tip didn't reach a minimum threshold. We call waiters who expect tips "wasters" here in the bay. That's not a bro thing, just a shift in culture.

boucher 8y ago

You are simply wrong. It's trivially easy to disprove your several comments about SF tipping culture with a few google searches. Don't confuse the fact that nobody has confronted you for the idea that waiters don't expect you to tip them.

the_clarence 8y ago
I live in SF. I don't tip, most of my acquaintances don't tip either.

tareqak 8y ago

I for one wasn't aware of a no-tip culture in San Francisco. I would totally not do it provided I was absolutely sure that this culture was a thing.

throwaway415415 8y ago
You should start this in your city! We call "wasters" the waiters that expect a tip here.
- tareqak 8y ago
  Actually, I'm currently in San Francisco, and I haven't heard anything of the sort. I probably should ask around though.

fencepost 8y ago

If you're in places where non-tipping is expected and the staff are paid based on that, fine. If you're doing this in places where staff pay is determined based on expectation of tips, you may be an exemplar of what people hate about Silicon Valley dudebro culture. It's entirely possible that restaurants in SF have shifted to non-tipping and jacked their prices up to pay higher base wages just because it's so expensive to live anywhere in that area, but in most of the country people in traditionally-tipped positions are often paid significantly below minimum wage (as low as $2.13/hour as the federal minimum, many states are higher). In California the tipped minimum wage at $11/hour is only $1/hour lower than the regular minimum wage, so not tipping may have less impact. Numbers taken from https://www.minimum-wage.org/ https://www.minimum-wage.org/

throwaway415415 8y ago
Restaurants in other part of the country will raise someone's paycheck if the tip didn't reach a minimum threshold. We call waiters who expect tips "wasters" here in the bay. That's not a bro thing, just a shift in culture.