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1) You asked me what my definition is--that's it. You're welcome to have your own. 2/3) Quoting one regulation does not establish that another does not exist.
by towaway1138 8y ago
1) You asked me what my definition is--that's it. You're welcome to have your own.
2/3) Quoting one regulation does not establish that another does not exist. In any case, you're not going to change anyone's mind on this by quibbling over such details.
People who come in unlawfully cause a long train of problems, which we're having to deal with now. For starters, there's no way to remain here without continuing to break laws on a regular basis. They are at significant risk of violence and exploitation, and there's no way for them to ever fully integrate into society given their illegal status.
On top of that, they displace the people that we are choosing to admit after long and careful consideration--people who worked long and hard for it, who are the ideal future citizens we want. It's difficult to think of any other context in which this would be considered acceptable.
- eesmith 8y agoMy followup was to point out the unreasonableness of your definition. You seem to have created a law which doesn't exist "breaking into a country" and a punishment which doesn't exist, on the assumption that your definition must be the right one. If your view is right, it should be easy to disprove me - it was not hard for me to find the information which showed that your broad definition was wrong. Why hand-wave instead? You bring up "fully integrated into society" as if that were of fundamental importance. Are the Amish fully integrated into society? If your definition is only "fastidiously obey the law" then for a long time the Amish were not fully integrated, eg, continuing to speak German at places in violation of laws passed as a result of WWI. The laws changed, making the Amish once again integrated under that definition. Just like the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 shows that it's possible legalize undocumented immigrants - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control... .
- towaway1138 8y agoI'm fine with whatever laws our representatives enact to deal with the situation. I'm completely against those (citizens or not) who decide they'll just break the laws because they don't like them.