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In the hardware spec list it says: "Smart Card Reader: Yes (OpenPGP-compatible)" The same list says it doesn't have NFC, so I'm just wondering what sort of in

In the hardware spec list it says: "Smart Card Reader: Yes (OpenPGP-compatible)" The same list says it doesn't have NFC, so I'm just wondering what sort of interface this is going to be, so what sort of cards can be used... Anyone have any idea? [edit] They have the Librem Key - https://puri.sm/products/librem-key/ https://puri.sm/products/librem-key/ - but that requires a full sized USB port, which I assume this phone wont have.

confounded 8y ago
It would likely be a literal smartcard reader. E.g. you put something in there that looks the chip in your debit card.
- newnewpdro 8y ago
  That seems incredibly unlikely on a smartphone, no?
  - wiml 8y ago
    I don't see why it would be unlikely. The standard identity smartcard (DoD PIV card, openPGP card, etc), like the standard credit/debit card, uses the same physical and electrical interface as a SIM (because a SIM is also a standard smartcard): the ISO7816 pattern. Dual-SIM phones are pretty common — even Apple has one! — and there's no technical reason you couldn't make one of the SIM sockets hotpluggable and present it to the applications on the phone instead of to the cellular module.
    - newnewpdro 8y ago
      If it's the size of a SIM or MicroSD card sure, but if we're talking about credit card sized cards it strikes me as unlikely for packaging reasons. The phone already requires tools for battery replacement, and now it's going to accomodate a durable credit card slot? Apparently this phone is going to be much bulkier than I imagined.
      - confounded 8y ago
        Apologies, my description was poor. I meant something that looks like a SIM card.
- mastazi 8y ago
  What do you mean when you say "a literal smartcard reader"? Do you have a link? All the smartcard readers that I have seen are way too large to be placed in a smartphone e.g. http://www.dualboost.com/index.php?pos=photos http://www.dualboost.com/index.php?pos=photos
  - Avery3R 8y ago
    All you need is a little slit on the bottom of the phone that you can insert the smartcard into. It doesn't even have to go in all the way, just enough to get the contacts touching.
mithbre 8y ago
I was interested in this line as well. It's probably one of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP_card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP_card If you look between the battery and the microsd card slot you'll see the the slot - https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/figure18b.png https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/figure18b.png

confounded 8y ago

It would likely be a literal smartcard reader. E.g. you put something in there that looks the chip in your debit card.

newnewpdro 8y ago
That seems incredibly unlikely on a smartphone, no?
- wiml 8y ago
  I don't see why it would be unlikely. The standard identity smartcard (DoD PIV card, openPGP card, etc), like the standard credit/debit card, uses the same physical and electrical interface as a SIM (because a SIM is also a standard smartcard): the ISO7816 pattern. Dual-SIM phones are pretty common — even Apple has one! — and there's no technical reason you couldn't make one of the SIM sockets hotpluggable and present it to the applications on the phone instead of to the cellular module.
  - newnewpdro 8y ago
    If it's the size of a SIM or MicroSD card sure, but if we're talking about credit card sized cards it strikes me as unlikely for packaging reasons. The phone already requires tools for battery replacement, and now it's going to accomodate a durable credit card slot? Apparently this phone is going to be much bulkier than I imagined.
    - confounded 8y ago
      Apologies, my description was poor. I meant something that looks like a SIM card.
mastazi 8y ago
What do you mean when you say "a literal smartcard reader"? Do you have a link? All the smartcard readers that I have seen are way too large to be placed in a smartphone e.g. http://www.dualboost.com/index.php?pos=photos http://www.dualboost.com/index.php?pos=photos
- Avery3R 8y ago
  All you need is a little slit on the bottom of the phone that you can insert the smartcard into. It doesn't even have to go in all the way, just enough to get the contacts touching.

mithbre 8y ago

I was interested in this line as well. It's probably one of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP_card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP_card If you look between the battery and the microsd card slot you'll see the the slot - https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/figure18b.png https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/figure18b.png