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I haven't written a line of code that ran outside of a corporate network in years. Comments like this show how ignorant HN is about what "framework jockeys" act

by ng12 8y ago

I haven't written a line of code that ran outside of a corporate network in years. Comments like this show how ignorant HN is about what "framework jockeys" actually do.

joshstrange 8y ago
Amen, my code mainly runs outside my company but this 1000000x over. SOOO many people on HN seem to think the entire world works exactly like they do on the same kinds of things. It seems outside of most people's understanding that, maybe, just maybe, the business conditions where someone else works are.... different GASP. It's not the same thing but it's a pet peeve for me when people make comments like "How could a developer skip X or not do Y?!?" Well not all of use can pick 100% what we work on and are sometimes forced to cut corners. We aren't happy about it but we are more happy with taking home a paycheck that being right 100% of the time. My go-to is "Is this this hill I want to die on?" when this stuff comes up.
rlonn 8y ago
Sorry to hear that! I consulted a year for a large financial company and their trading platform consisted of a million lines of C code. I've always loved C, but looking at the code it was actually hard to tell which language it was. They were using internally-developed libraries to do everything. Practically every line of code was a macro or library call, or a macro calling a library. I guess it makes sense to standardise, modularize, abstract away things to a ridiculous degree when you're working on very large codebases, with many people. I'm happy I don't have to do that anymore though!
TeMPOraL 8y ago
Not really. GP's comment is borne out of frustration with public-facing Internet, built by those framework jockeys. It doesn't mean the same problem isn't happening over at corporate. Speaking of which, having worked a bit in corporate setting, I have my own extra point of hatred here too: I saw perfectly good, if crappy looking, server-side, plain HTML intranet apps replaced with most recent JavaScript framework shitfest, making my life extra miserable as I suddenly had to deal with some apps I was forced to use stealing computing resources from the very job I had to do.

by ng12 8y ago

I haven't written a line of code that ran outside of a corporate network in years. Comments like this show how ignorant HN is about what "framework jockeys" actually do.

joshstrange 8y ago

Amen, my code mainly runs outside my company but this 1000000x over. SOOO many people on HN seem to think the entire world works exactly like they do on the same kinds of things. It seems outside of most people's understanding that, maybe, just maybe, the business conditions where someone else works are.... different GASP. It's not the same thing but it's a pet peeve for me when people make comments like "How could a developer skip X or not do Y?!?" Well not all of use can pick 100% what we work on and are sometimes forced to cut corners. We aren't happy about it but we are more happy with taking home a paycheck that being right 100% of the time. My go-to is "Is this this hill I want to die on?" when this stuff comes up.

rlonn 8y ago

Sorry to hear that! I consulted a year for a large financial company and their trading platform consisted of a million lines of C code. I've always loved C, but looking at the code it was actually hard to tell which language it was. They were using internally-developed libraries to do everything. Practically every line of code was a macro or library call, or a macro calling a library. I guess it makes sense to standardise, modularize, abstract away things to a ridiculous degree when you're working on very large codebases, with many people. I'm happy I don't have to do that anymore though!

TeMPOraL 8y ago

Not really. GP's comment is borne out of frustration with public-facing Internet, built by those framework jockeys. It doesn't mean the same problem isn't happening over at corporate. Speaking of which, having worked a bit in corporate setting, I have my own extra point of hatred here too: I saw perfectly good, if crappy looking, server-side, plain HTML intranet apps replaced with most recent JavaScript framework shitfest, making my life extra miserable as I suddenly had to deal with some apps I was forced to use stealing computing resources from the very job I had to do.