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Given that my browser window is open, when I click on a link. Then I see a cookie privacy notice; then I see a request to allow notification from website; then
by hasperdi 8y ago
Given that my browser window is open, when I click on a link.
Then I see a cookie privacy notice;
then I see a request to allow notification from website;
then I see request to disclose location;
then I see banner advertising;
then I see subscribe to our newsletter popup;
then I hear subscription trial message.
When I close the given browser tab,
then I see a popup dialog confirming that I want to leave.
The web is getting sadder and sadder...
- TeMPOraL 8y agoAnd then, this gem from the article: > After all, you can close your eyes, but you can’t close your ears.
- xg15 8y agoBut think of all the free value! I do like how they first keep stressing how much this is in the interest of the user (free value, great deal, etc etc) only to talk about "not subjecting the user to more advertising" in the last sentence of that paragraph. Which narrative is it now?
- rising-sky 8y agoIndeed, this is why my phone and mac volume meters are always set at the minimum, and I "opt-in" to audio by increasing the volume when I have the desire to listen to whatever the audio output is at that time.
- discardable999 8y agoTurn off JS and you see none of that. None. Lord, I'm tired of people whining about the web and doing nothing, not disabling JS, not blocking ads via even a trivial hosts file, disabling cookies to prevent easy tracking, nothing. What's sadder than the web is people who can't be bothered to take any responsibility for how the web is presented to them. Yes, I'm angry. I've even contacted website maintainers to pressure them over this. Ach, I have lost faith in people. They want nice things without doing any work for it.
- zwaps 8y agoWithout Js, 90 percent of pages simply do not work
- epscoe 8y agoAutoplaying video is enough to make me close a tab immediately, even with Chrome's merciful mute-by-default setting. I understand that some amount of advertisement is required for the content to be free, but this attention warfare is disgusting. Oh, and you forgot the survey that pops up before you've even read the article.
- llao 8y agoNone of that nonsense if you browse with javascript disabled by default. It is a soothing experience.
- JonathanMerklin 8y agoUntil you get hit with the classic <noscript> Javascript must be enabled to use this website. Please enable Javascript and reload the page. </noscript>
- marssaxman 8y agoI take that as a signal that I probably didn't care what was on the page anyway.
- ehmorris 8y agoNot sure what you mean. There are no ads on the engineering blog, we don't have a newsletter, and we don't request location information or launch any confirmation dialogs. If you're talking about a Genius song page, we still don't do anything you said except for showing ads, and playing the subscription message after you've listened to a 30s song preview.
- hasperdi 8y agoI am sorry that you didn't get the joke. It is not about your website specifically, but web in general. I see what you did as a dark pattern, it is going to inspire many internet marketers that only care about conversions, their funnels, and things to brag about to their peers. I bet the web will be invested with these things, resulting in a crappier user experience. But that doesn't matter right!? ...as long as the conversion rates are good. Sigh...
- rootusrootus 8y agoI didn't get the joke either. Until ehmorris responded, I assumed you were talking about the site this thread is about.
- sturgill 8y agoThe web has always been sad. Pop ups, pop unders, blink tags, etc. All things old are new again (here’s looking at you, animated gif!).