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On what planet is the idea of making a robot with a mechanical finger to press phones to test them a trade secret .... (as a phone developer) it's so blooming o
by Taniwha 8y ago
On what planet is the idea of making a robot with a mechanical finger to press phones to test them a trade secret .... (as a phone developer) it's so blooming obvious I've spent hours of meeting discussing exactly this
It's only a trade secret if you think the entire rest of the world is stupid
- mmmmmmmmm 8y agoI think it'd be foolish for any US or Canadian citizen to travel to China right now.
- mehwoot 8y agoIt's not the idea, its the specific technology. took measurements of parts of the robot and, in one instance, stole a piece of the robot
- Taniwha 8y agoBut why would anyone need to do that, you build one of these by starting with a cheap 3d printer and removing the print head, it's not a hard thing to make
- rajacombinator 8y agoAnd the robot was probably made in China to begin with!
- shard972 8y agoWell go tell the Chinese they don't actually need to steal any trade secrets or any of this, they can just make it themselves. I'm sure they will reward you handsomely for basically saving their relationship with western countries and saving so much time and effort.
- dang 8y agoPlease don't post unsubstantive comments to HN, and especially please don't post in the flamewar style. Double especially not for nationalistic battle. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: it looks like you've unfortunately posted a ton of unsubstantive and uncivil comments. If you keep doing that we will ban you, so could you please re-read the guidelines and fix that? You might also find these links helpful for getting an idea of the spirit of this site: https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html http://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html
- shard972 8y agoAnd the OP wasn't a troll? Or is the bar for intelligent discourse in HN at "Nobody honestly knows why china engadges in IP theft when they could just build it themselves." Ill edit my comment to be nicer i guess. Edit: Can't edit the post anymore, oh well people get it anyway, it got 7 up votes, IP theft actually benefits the person that acquires it and ill be willing to debate that anytime.
- dang 8y agoI'm doubtful that the OP was trolling. It doesn't really matter, though. Each of us needs to abide by the site guidelines even if others aren't or don't seem to. That's the only way to prevent the bar from slipping further. Edit: while I have you, can you please not post unsubstantive comments like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19032367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19032367 either? That's more bar slippage and we're hoping to avoid it.
- fucking_tragedy 8y agoWhy waste resources developing a solution when you can steal a solution that already exists?
- j16sdiz 8y agoThis is related to a 2014 civil case. You can find more detail on https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/19/huawei_spied_us_jury_finds/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/19/huawei_spied_us_jur... This is a crimial follow-up to that case.
- syntaxing 8y agoI think the quality team will laugh at me for the rest of my life if I ever suggested using an open loop and nonsynced axis system to do testing...
- syntaxing 8y agoHmm I'm surprised you think it's an easy task since you're part of the industry. I've designed the actuators to do these sort of testing and I agree that this part is pretty straightforward since it's usually pneumatic for the response time. However, the instrumentation and processing side is never straightforward, especially in production. I'm guessing the trade secret is probably some sort of measurement device or some special pressure balance system on the actuators.