Ah thanks yes, I did look at that website before getting Squeak, I forget exactly what stopped me downloading it. I should have said "The closest I can get", m

Ah thanks yes, I did look at that website before getting Squeak, I forget exactly what stopped me downloading it. I should have said "The closest I can get", my mistake I guess. Maybe all the talk of licences, ONLY (their capitals) using it for academic use/evaluation purposes ONLY. (Geez, takes me right back to the 80s.) The download page for the "evaluation" version is a "send us all your details and we'll email you a licence tomorrow" page. Maybe my computer is too old (usually the problem). Looking now, it's not easy to find a price for a do-anything-with-it licence on that site...Eventually I found that a "Cincom Smalltalk Limited Value Add Software License Agreement" is $500, but what that is exactly I'm not sure.