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1. http so://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa4mq7/the-us-keeps-mistakenly-deporting-its-own-citizens US keeps mistakenly deporting its own citizens. 2. Natu

by hopler 8y ago

1. http so://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa4mq7/the-us-keeps-mistakenly-deporting-its-own-citizens US keeps mistakenly deporting its own citizens. 2. Natural born citizens don't come in through the front door. 3. Making immigration illegakt and then claiming to be anti illegal immigration isn't fooling anyone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)

artificial 8y ago
Over 1 million people legally immigrate annually. No other country comes close to this and it apparently still isn't open enough. What do you propose to improve things?
- hopler 8y ago
  I don't know. I was simply refuting the bogus claim that there is some logically justifiable moral boundary between legal and illegal immigration. If you want to oppose legal immigration, at least be honest.
- romwell 8y ago
  >Over 1 million people legally immigrate annually. What do you propose to improve things? How about we really punish people who benefit from this? That is, punish people who hire illegal immigrants with prison terms. The only reason no other country comes close is that our country allows that to happen on purpose by not going after people who benefit from it.
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vokep 8y ago
1. That sucks and is bad and should not happen. I would think we agree on that. I don't think this is relevant to the discussion 2. Yes that is how it works. It's an analogy and this is where it breaks, we could push it though - if parents have a baby, that baby doesn't have to pass tests to confirm it is their child and gets to stay in their home. If some random person claims they're your descendant, you'd have them do a paternity test. 3. I'm sure there are people who do that, but I'm not one of them.
fallingfrog 8y ago
As for point 2, I think there is some real promise for a new national motto: your mom’s vagina is America’s front door.. Edit: but as to your actual point, I agree.

by hopler 8y ago

artificial 8y ago

Over 1 million people legally immigrate annually. No other country comes close to this and it apparently still isn't open enough. What do you propose to improve things?

hopler 8y ago
I don't know. I was simply refuting the bogus claim that there is some logically justifiable moral boundary between legal and illegal immigration. If you want to oppose legal immigration, at least be honest.
romwell 8y ago
>Over 1 million people legally immigrate annually. What do you propose to improve things? How about we really punish people who benefit from this? That is, punish people who hire illegal immigrants with prison terms. The only reason no other country comes close is that our country allows that to happen on purpose by not going after people who benefit from it.
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vokep 8y ago

1. That sucks and is bad and should not happen. I would think we agree on that. I don't think this is relevant to the discussion 2. Yes that is how it works. It's an analogy and this is where it breaks, we could push it though - if parents have a baby, that baby doesn't have to pass tests to confirm it is their child and gets to stay in their home. If some random person claims they're your descendant, you'd have them do a paternity test. 3. I'm sure there are people who do that, but I'm not one of them.

fallingfrog 8y ago

As for point 2, I think there is some real promise for a new national motto: your mom’s vagina is America’s front door.. Edit: but as to your actual point, I agree.