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While I think learning to code would be a great option for lots of these folks if they want to make a career change (both the journalists and coal miners). It d

by Phlarp 8y ago

While I think learning to code would be a great option for lots of these folks if they want to make a career change (both the journalists and coal miners). It does not need to be specifically triggered by a layoff. With that said, "people on Twitter are saying" is somewhat disingenuous when there was an active and coordinated effort to target journalists that had been laid off with exactly this phrase "learn to code" by 4chan users. You can even see them coming out of the woodwork in the green posters below. They want to doxx and harass others online but don't have the stones to even voice support to such behavior under their actual tags.

surge 8y ago
You say 4chan, but its reddit and other forums, its just other people on Twitter bandwagon-ing. If they can be so callous when others get laid off maybe its good they get a dose of their own medicine given they seem to be speaking from a place of entitlement. Journalists have a bad habit of feeding the trolls as well. If you respond to it, they don't seem to realize this encourages them, or perhaps they do and they want to further elevate how victimized they are by this "targeted harassment".
- pulisse 8y ago
  > If they can be so callous when others get laid off maybe its good they get a dose of their own medicine given they seem to be speaking from a place of entitlement Care to cite some examples of BuzzFeed employees displaying such callousness?
  - surge 8y ago
    Do you want me to pull up every article? Its not Buzzfeed, its the media/journalists. I believe one of them said coding was a blue collar job now and beneath them, more or less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoohuBQgbQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoohuBQgbQU
    - Phlarp 8y ago
      Yea, no. This was centrally directed by 4chan and explicitly targeted at the individuals laid off buzzfeed and huffpost. Like any profession or trade there will be individuals more skilled than others, and individuals more honest than others; although not always both at the same time. As it stands your eagerness to paint all journalists with the same brush is likely causing people to (consciously or otherwise) discount your argument outright. Even worse; a certain subset of the population is going to be actively antagonized by this language because it so closely resembles language used by a politician that they have very strong negative animus towards. Would your disdain for an entire profession be as vigorous if the layoffs were occuring en masse at Breitbart or Fox News?
      - surge 8y ago
        I wouldn't care because they're just as biased. Buzzfeed and to a large degree HuffPo was a clickbait outrage yellow journalist organization. They make news for ratings, not to inform, they go for outrage. If it was were the AP or Bloomberg or some org that reported primarily the information and facts of a matter, I might be concerned. There are some good journalists being let go, but they'll likely land on their feet. But I'm not upset that Buzzfeed or HuffPo are slowly going under. They do more harm for democracy and an informed populace than good. You say lead by 4chan. Do you know how 4chan works? Did you watch the video, its not just 4chan. Besides, 4chan is just a bunch of trolls, why would you get upset as a public figure, by trolls. Twitter is a cancerous cesspool, like 4chan, if you don't want to read that stuff, just stay off of it. You shouldn't take it seriously, but I do agree that journalists can be callous towards others in the same situation then suddenly incredibly sympathetic when its happening to themselves.
        Phlarp 8y ago
        I do know how 4chan works. It's a very well trodden trope that 4chan is easily manipulated, rushes to conclusions on impartial or inaccurate information, and has a predisposition towards group think that very often will contrive ways in which 4chan users can exert influence on other parts of the internet through sheer numbers. (online polls, brigading vote based aggregators, DDOS attacks)

by Phlarp 8y ago

surge 8y ago

You say 4chan, but its reddit and other forums, its just other people on Twitter bandwagon-ing. If they can be so callous when others get laid off maybe its good they get a dose of their own medicine given they seem to be speaking from a place of entitlement. Journalists have a bad habit of feeding the trolls as well. If you respond to it, they don't seem to realize this encourages them, or perhaps they do and they want to further elevate how victimized they are by this "targeted harassment".

pulisse 8y ago
> If they can be so callous when others get laid off maybe its good they get a dose of their own medicine given they seem to be speaking from a place of entitlement Care to cite some examples of BuzzFeed employees displaying such callousness?
- surge 8y ago
  Do you want me to pull up every article? Its not Buzzfeed, its the media/journalists. I believe one of them said coding was a blue collar job now and beneath them, more or less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoohuBQgbQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoohuBQgbQU
  - Phlarp 8y ago
    Yea, no. This was centrally directed by 4chan and explicitly targeted at the individuals laid off buzzfeed and huffpost. Like any profession or trade there will be individuals more skilled than others, and individuals more honest than others; although not always both at the same time. As it stands your eagerness to paint all journalists with the same brush is likely causing people to (consciously or otherwise) discount your argument outright. Even worse; a certain subset of the population is going to be actively antagonized by this language because it so closely resembles language used by a politician that they have very strong negative animus towards. Would your disdain for an entire profession be as vigorous if the layoffs were occuring en masse at Breitbart or Fox News?
    - surge 8y ago
      I wouldn't care because they're just as biased. Buzzfeed and to a large degree HuffPo was a clickbait outrage yellow journalist organization. They make news for ratings, not to inform, they go for outrage. If it was were the AP or Bloomberg or some org that reported primarily the information and facts of a matter, I might be concerned. There are some good journalists being let go, but they'll likely land on their feet. But I'm not upset that Buzzfeed or HuffPo are slowly going under. They do more harm for democracy and an informed populace than good. You say lead by 4chan. Do you know how 4chan works? Did you watch the video, its not just 4chan. Besides, 4chan is just a bunch of trolls, why would you get upset as a public figure, by trolls. Twitter is a cancerous cesspool, like 4chan, if you don't want to read that stuff, just stay off of it. You shouldn't take it seriously, but I do agree that journalists can be callous towards others in the same situation then suddenly incredibly sympathetic when its happening to themselves.
      - Phlarp 8y ago
        I do know how 4chan works. It's a very well trodden trope that 4chan is easily manipulated, rushes to conclusions on impartial or inaccurate information, and has a predisposition towards group think that very often will contrive ways in which 4chan users can exert influence on other parts of the internet through sheer numbers. (online polls, brigading vote based aggregators, DDOS attacks)