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>That’s the crux of the argument: nobody thinks Huawei is spying now. To get caught would be too dangerous. But nobody knows that it won’t spy in the future. H

>That’s the crux of the argument: nobody thinks Huawei is spying now. To get caught would be too dangerous. But nobody knows that it won’t spy in the future. Huawei was implicated in the hack on the African Union. [1,2] Now, that hasn't been proven anywhere, nor have they been formally accused, but it came up when Australia dropped them for 5G. 1. https://outline.com/WfCzFe https://outline.com/WfCzFe (same as [2], outlined) 2. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/national-security/china-used-huawei-to-hack-network-says-secret-report/news-story/510d3b17c2791cbcac18f047c64ab9d8 https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/national-s...

altmind 8y ago
(Thank you for outline link, its a great service!) Quoting the same article > There’s no proof that Huawei was asked to participate or turn a blind eye to the breach, but we know that there was a breach and Huawei was the key provider (The article mentions ZTE, that was also hardware provider, but did not put the blame on them?) This link also mentions that the AU HQ was bugged with microphones(the compound was build by chinese subcontractors) that implies, that if attack was real, it involved more than mere cloud service and wifi provider https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-african-union-headquarters-hack-and-australias-5g-network/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-african-union-headquar... But in general, the sources are not verifiable - the Le Monde itself, that seems to be the source, didnt mention huawei at all, the article quoted in parent comment mentions "australian national security source" https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2018/01/26/a-addis-abeba-le-siege-de-l-union-africaine-espionne-par-les-chinois_5247521_3212.html https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2018/01/26/a-addis-ab...
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USA has already been proven to be spying all over the world, tracking all our internet activity. And the suggestion that US spying is benign falls flat in the face of shit like this: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/28/international-criminal-court-icc-judge-christoph-flugge-quits-citing-political-interference-trump-administration-turkey https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/28/international-cr...

altmind 8y ago

(Thank you for outline link, its a great service!) Quoting the same article > There’s no proof that Huawei was asked to participate or turn a blind eye to the breach, but we know that there was a breach and Huawei was the key provider (The article mentions ZTE, that was also hardware provider, but did not put the blame on them?) This link also mentions that the AU HQ was bugged with microphones(the compound was build by chinese subcontractors) that implies, that if attack was real, it involved more than mere cloud service and wifi provider https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-african-union-headquarters-hack-and-australias-5g-network/ https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-african-union-headquar... But in general, the sources are not verifiable - the Le Monde itself, that seems to be the source, didnt mention huawei at all, the article quoted in parent comment mentions "australian national security source" https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2018/01/26/a-addis-abeba-le-siege-de-l-union-africaine-espionne-par-les-chinois_5247521_3212.html https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2018/01/26/a-addis-ab...

markdown 8y ago

USA has already been proven to be spying all over the world, tracking all our internet activity. And the suggestion that US spying is benign falls flat in the face of shit like this: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/28/international-criminal-court-icc-judge-christoph-flugge-quits-citing-political-interference-trump-administration-turkey https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/28/international-cr...