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> US prisons are more like torture centers Torture: > the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or

by cronix 8y ago

> US prisons are more like torture centers Torture: > the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/torture https://www.dictionary.com/browse/torture Please stop with the hyperbole and misapplication of defined words. You degrade the actual meaning of the word when used improperly in this context. Also, you state that it's a voluntary action, entirely controlled by the prisoners behavior. > If the prisoner doesn't behave just right So - behave if in prison. Seems reasonable. Contrast what you claim is torture, with actual torture that does go on: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/lawyer-torture-china-secret-jails-xie-yang https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/lawyer-torture... I'd take your version of torture any day of the week, because it's actually pretty tame compared to real torture.

fzeroracer 8y ago
Not only is this classic whataboutism, but it ignores the reality of the US prison system being an absolute horrific nightmare for many people. We still use solitary confinement here in the US which is absolutely considered torture in many circumstances. It's far from hyperbole and far from voluntary, especially when you start considering the needs of the mentally ill with regards to prisons and how they're supposed to behave.
- j16sdiz 8y ago
  solitary confinement is quite common in Asia. And no, we don't consider that as torture.
  - phren0logy 8y ago
    Given the psychological effects of extended, externally-imposed isolation, it should be considered a form of mistreatment everywhere.
  - behringer 8y ago
    Many countries and people consider it torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement#Torture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement#Torture And solitary confinement is one small part in the overall torture scheme perpetrated by US prisons. It's not hyperbole, it's the facts.
- cronix 8y ago
  > this classic whataboutism Not in the least, unless you are saying "what about using the actual definition of the word" is a bad thing for people to do.

by cronix 8y ago

fzeroracer 8y ago

Not only is this classic whataboutism, but it ignores the reality of the US prison system being an absolute horrific nightmare for many people. We still use solitary confinement here in the US which is absolutely considered torture in many circumstances. It's far from hyperbole and far from voluntary, especially when you start considering the needs of the mentally ill with regards to prisons and how they're supposed to behave.

j16sdiz 8y ago
solitary confinement is quite common in Asia. And no, we don't consider that as torture.
- phren0logy 8y ago
  Given the psychological effects of extended, externally-imposed isolation, it should be considered a form of mistreatment everywhere.
- behringer 8y ago
  Many countries and people consider it torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement#Torture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement#Torture And solitary confinement is one small part in the overall torture scheme perpetrated by US prisons. It's not hyperbole, it's the facts.
cronix 8y ago
> this classic whataboutism Not in the least, unless you are saying "what about using the actual definition of the word" is a bad thing for people to do.