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The are millions of Wordpress blogs/sites out there doing fine? What I also mean is that any complaints go to the host/owner of the self-hosted system. Not to

by ourcat 8y ago

The are millions of Wordpress blogs/sites out there doing fine? What I also mean is that any complaints go to the host/owner of the self-hosted system. Not to the people writing and supporting the software they run.

icebraining 8y ago
The are millions of Wordpress blogs/sites out there doing fine? Many, if not most, are not actually self-hosted.
- Jaruzel 8y ago
  Simply not true. The plethora low-cost one-click-install WordPress hosting providers out there are testament to this. Over the weekend I was asked to set up a remote-hosted WordPress site for a friend, and all the major web-hosters out there claim to hosting 100s of thousands of WordPress blogs. (I ended up choosing 1&1.co.uk as they are UK based and seemed to offer good options for a good price... however the setup was not as easy as it could have been.)
  - icebraining 8y ago
    I guess we have different opinions on what "self-hosted" means.
    - ourcat 8y ago
      Naturally, many of us here in HN might be able to rent and administer our 'own' dedicated servers and run whatever we want on them. And some just can't (or choose not to). But to the main point: "self-hosted" means that you are responsible for the content - and any legal or social implications therein. Not the "social media blogging platform du jour". It's your blog. You are the 'editor'/'publisher'. The host itself has certain protections against whatever you might want to host. But it's your responsibility to act upon complaints. And in today's increasingly litigious society, that's going to be massive drain. Emotionally, as well as financially. And that will always destroy any productivity the product itself should be getting. I just think that "building (and selling!) tools" for users, to do what they want with, in 'space' they 'can call their own' is a better proposition than "building networks and apps to make it easy to pour everyone's content into silos. And transfer some degree of copyright in order to do so. And have to answer to all the complaints of abuse etc. etc. " :)

by ourcat 8y ago

icebraining 8y ago

The are millions of Wordpress blogs/sites out there doing fine? Many, if not most, are not actually self-hosted.

Jaruzel 8y ago
Simply not true. The plethora low-cost one-click-install WordPress hosting providers out there are testament to this. Over the weekend I was asked to set up a remote-hosted WordPress site for a friend, and all the major web-hosters out there claim to hosting 100s of thousands of WordPress blogs. (I ended up choosing 1&1.co.uk as they are UK based and seemed to offer good options for a good price... however the setup was not as easy as it could have been.)
- icebraining 8y ago
  I guess we have different opinions on what "self-hosted" means.
  - ourcat 8y ago
    Naturally, many of us here in HN might be able to rent and administer our 'own' dedicated servers and run whatever we want on them. And some just can't (or choose not to). But to the main point: "self-hosted" means that you are responsible for the content - and any legal or social implications therein. Not the "social media blogging platform du jour". It's your blog. You are the 'editor'/'publisher'. The host itself has certain protections against whatever you might want to host. But it's your responsibility to act upon complaints. And in today's increasingly litigious society, that's going to be massive drain. Emotionally, as well as financially. And that will always destroy any productivity the product itself should be getting. I just think that "building (and selling!) tools" for users, to do what they want with, in 'space' they 'can call their own' is a better proposition than "building networks and apps to make it easy to pour everyone's content into silos. And transfer some degree of copyright in order to do so. And have to answer to all the complaints of abuse etc. etc. " :)