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I’m not just talking about clickable URLs, but actual hyperlinks where the visible title is different from the destination URL. I don’t know what there is to t

I’m not just talking about clickable URLs, but actual hyperlinks where the visible title is different from the destination URL. I don’t know what there is to tell about displaying images. There are terminal emulators that can display images inline when a program emits the image data properly. I don’t understand your final sentence. How does it make sense to say that it’s impossible because it doesn’t currently exist? That’s like saying it’s impossible for me to drive because I’m not currently in a car. You didn’t say that nothing currently supports it, you said “no one can fix this.”

cryptonector 8y ago
I wrote this: > So, yes, it's absolutely impossible to get key up events in tty context, and at this point it will almost certainly stay that way forever, as it's too late to retrofit terminal emulators, drivers, and applications to understand whatever protocol for communicating key up events. (The right way to do this would be to develop an escape sequence protocol that the tty/pty drivers could decode and turn events into out-of-band events to be delivered via ioctl()s, that way applications that don't care about key up events don't see them and don't need to be modified. But who is going to do all that work?) So "it's impossible [right now]" and "it can be done" but "it's not gonna happen". Is that not a fair summary? Perhaps we can disagree as to the last part. EDIT: Ah yes, further below I wrote this: > Eh? No, no one can fix this. Oracle couldn't fix this in Solaris. Microsoft can't fix this either (in Windows, in Linux, not at all). > It's not a question of money, or managerial will-power. You're asking to boil a great lake, and if you have the money for it, you will almost certainly find better uses for it. There is no market demand for a "fix" here, so there cannot be any managerial will-power either. That's overbroad, yes. The fix I outlined is not as much as boiling great lakes.
- mikeash 8y ago
  I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if it never happened, too, but I don’t think it’s at all a fair summary to say it definitely never will. It’s not at all reasonable to call it impossible, and Oracle, Microsoft, or random Linux developers could all do it if they felt like it.
  - cryptonector 8y ago
    Fair enough.

cryptonector 8y ago

I wrote this: > So, yes, it's absolutely impossible to get key up events in tty context, and at this point it will almost certainly stay that way forever, as it's too late to retrofit terminal emulators, drivers, and applications to understand whatever protocol for communicating key up events. (The right way to do this would be to develop an escape sequence protocol that the tty/pty drivers could decode and turn events into out-of-band events to be delivered via ioctl()s, that way applications that don't care about key up events don't see them and don't need to be modified. But who is going to do all that work?) So "it's impossible [right now]" and "it can be done" but "it's not gonna happen". Is that not a fair summary? Perhaps we can disagree as to the last part. EDIT: Ah yes, further below I wrote this: > Eh? No, no one can fix this. Oracle couldn't fix this in Solaris. Microsoft can't fix this either (in Windows, in Linux, not at all). > It's not a question of money, or managerial will-power. You're asking to boil a great lake, and if you have the money for it, you will almost certainly find better uses for it. There is no market demand for a "fix" here, so there cannot be any managerial will-power either. That's overbroad, yes. The fix I outlined is not as much as boiling great lakes.

mikeash 8y ago
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if it never happened, too, but I don’t think it’s at all a fair summary to say it definitely never will. It’s not at all reasonable to call it impossible, and Oracle, Microsoft, or random Linux developers could all do it if they felt like it.
- cryptonector 8y ago
  Fair enough.