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God damn it, and Samsung made the Facebook app now non deletable https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/101478873892782169 https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/1014788738927821

by jeena 8y ago

God damn it, and Samsung made the Facebook app now non deletable https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/101478873892782169 https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/101478873892782169

jammygit 8y ago
I was using an s8 last year and iirc facebook could only be 'disabled,' not uninstalled. Same with many others. I switched to a lineageOS friendly phone since with very few issues (pixel XL).
- dmitrygr 8y ago
  On modern Android, disable and uninstall are the same exact thing. And please don't start telling me that the difference is the binary stays around. It does not run. Ever. Trust me, you prefer it this way. The system partition being read only is the same reason why your phone is much more secure than it would be otherwise. And as to why it is there in the first place, that is a question for Samsung. But please stop spreading around false information about Android. Uninstall and disable are the same thing as far as the app is concerned and as far as the user is concerned and as far as the operating system is concerned.
  - anoncake 8y ago
    Disabled apps take up space. It's not the same thing.
    - dmitrygr 8y ago
      No they do not!!! They are in the /system partition, which is sized once per Android release and never changed again. If you remounted it as read/write, and deleted them, you would recover no space! Any application installed in the /data partition can be deleted. That has the space you see and the space you can free. Applications that come pre-installed on the phone and cannot be deleted are in the /system partition. It is a completely separate part of the storage, not accessible to the user for writing and does not count against free space. It is where the OS lives. Even if you do modify this partition, no matter how, you will not get any more free space for your user data
      - jeena 8y ago
        I guess if even I myself didn't get that from the UI then most probably most of the people out there have no chance to get that either. It would be nice if the UI would somehow convey this information. Also, the size of that partition is decided by taking into account that the Facebook app will need to fit there. If you hadn't any preinstalled apps then this size would be able to be smaller and then you would get more space on your device for applications which you actually need to use.
        dmitrygr 8y ago
        Actually, it's sized with some amount of free space to allow for future updates. Pre-installed apps rarely make a significant difference. Core Android at this point is pretty large
masonic 8y ago
Not true. Some carriers may configure certain models that way. Of the GS6, GS6 Edge, GS7, GS7 Edge, and GS9+ on T-Mobile I've had, the only one that had Facebook pre-installed was the GS6.
dba7dba 8y ago
Wifes Samsung S9 from Verizon has no Facebook app.

by jeena 8y ago

God damn it, and Samsung made the Facebook app now non deletable https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/101478873892782169 https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena/101478873892782169

jammygit 8y ago

I was using an s8 last year and iirc facebook could only be 'disabled,' not uninstalled. Same with many others. I switched to a lineageOS friendly phone since with very few issues (pixel XL).

dmitrygr 8y ago
On modern Android, disable and uninstall are the same exact thing. And please don't start telling me that the difference is the binary stays around. It does not run. Ever. Trust me, you prefer it this way. The system partition being read only is the same reason why your phone is much more secure than it would be otherwise. And as to why it is there in the first place, that is a question for Samsung. But please stop spreading around false information about Android. Uninstall and disable are the same thing as far as the app is concerned and as far as the user is concerned and as far as the operating system is concerned.
- anoncake 8y ago
  Disabled apps take up space. It's not the same thing.
  - dmitrygr 8y ago
    No they do not!!! They are in the /system partition, which is sized once per Android release and never changed again. If you remounted it as read/write, and deleted them, you would recover no space! Any application installed in the /data partition can be deleted. That has the space you see and the space you can free. Applications that come pre-installed on the phone and cannot be deleted are in the /system partition. It is a completely separate part of the storage, not accessible to the user for writing and does not count against free space. It is where the OS lives. Even if you do modify this partition, no matter how, you will not get any more free space for your user data
    - jeena 8y ago
      I guess if even I myself didn't get that from the UI then most probably most of the people out there have no chance to get that either. It would be nice if the UI would somehow convey this information. Also, the size of that partition is decided by taking into account that the Facebook app will need to fit there. If you hadn't any preinstalled apps then this size would be able to be smaller and then you would get more space on your device for applications which you actually need to use.
      - dmitrygr 8y ago
        Actually, it's sized with some amount of free space to allow for future updates. Pre-installed apps rarely make a significant difference. Core Android at this point is pretty large

masonic 8y ago

Not true. Some carriers may configure certain models that way. Of the GS6, GS6 Edge, GS7, GS7 Edge, and GS9+ on T-Mobile I've had, the only one that had Facebook pre-installed was the GS6.

dba7dba 8y ago

Wifes Samsung S9 from Verizon has no Facebook app.