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"the customer's data" I have a question. How is it the customers data? The data is about a transaction that happened in the bakers store. It's all information

"the customer's data" I have a question. How is it the customers data? The data is about a transaction that happened in the bakers store. It's all information that was plain for the baker to see. The baker did the work to collect it. In fact, all the information is about the interaction directly with the baker. How is this not the bakers data? Can someone walk into my store and somehow give me something that belongs to them against my will? And then impose requirements on me about what I can do with it? Or it only belongs to them at the point I write it down? Now I start to agree that there are concerns at the point in a computing scenario when people are gathering data that isn't a part of the transaction actually taking place without the person knowing. But shouldn't that be on the browsers to deal with?

AlexandrB 8y ago
> I have a question. How is it the customers data? The data is about a transaction that happened in the bakers store. Translating this analogy back to tech inverts your argument: It's my phone, and it's my computer. Thus any data collected from or generated on these devices is mine. I'm just letting a company use these hardware resources temporarily to deliver a service.
deogeo 8y ago
I refuse to look at being informed upon from a purely capitalist perspective. A perspective that reduces such essential and intangible concepts like privacy, down to mere questions of property - what belongs to whom. You can argue all you want that nothing was 'taken' from you, yet at the end of the day you will not be able to take a single step without your corporate masters knowing about it.
bryan_w 8y ago
That's exactly what I've been saying. If you actually cared about your privacy, you don't need a cookie law popup on every page, you just need to get the browser to stop sending cookies. Mozilla and apple claim to want to protect your privacy, but their browsers continue to sell you down the river

AlexandrB 8y ago

> I have a question. How is it the customers data? The data is about a transaction that happened in the bakers store. Translating this analogy back to tech inverts your argument: It's my phone, and it's my computer. Thus any data collected from or generated on these devices is mine. I'm just letting a company use these hardware resources temporarily to deliver a service.

deogeo 8y ago

I refuse to look at being informed upon from a purely capitalist perspective. A perspective that reduces such essential and intangible concepts like privacy, down to mere questions of property - what belongs to whom. You can argue all you want that nothing was 'taken' from you, yet at the end of the day you will not be able to take a single step without your corporate masters knowing about it.

bryan_w 8y ago

That's exactly what I've been saying. If you actually cared about your privacy, you don't need a cookie law popup on every page, you just need to get the browser to stop sending cookies. Mozilla and apple claim to want to protect your privacy, but their browsers continue to sell you down the river