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European Medicines Agency (EMA) closes London office with loss of 900 jobs

37 points by cirrus-clouds 8y ago

cirrus-clouds 8y ago
This PDF from October 2017 lists the suitability of the candidate cities wanting to host the EMA: Amsterdam, Athens, Barcelona, Bonn, Bratislava, Brussels, Bucharest, Copenhagen, Dublin, Helsinki, Lille, Malta, Milan, Sofia, Porto, Stockholm, Vienna, Warsaw, Zagreb http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2017/10/WC500236018.pdf http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2...
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- ragebol 8y ago
  > Amsterdam won the bid to host the agency in 2017. From the article.
gotocake 8y ago
Even though in this case the jobs went to The Netherlands, the Irish are probably best positioned to benefit from this act of economic suicide England is engaging in. They’re close to the UK and mainland Europe, they’re building a reputation for providing favorable conditions to large companies, and it’s less expensive. Beyond Ireland I think some other EU countries stand to benefit as well. All told, when you consider that it’s not as though England is going to break out in calm stability regardless of how Brexit proceeds, I think the result is going to be an irretrievable loss for England in particular, and the UK in general. I also wouldn’t be shocked if this (and demographic shift) ultimately leads to a reunification in Ireland, and independence passing for Scotland. At that point I guess England and Wales can try to figure out what to do with all of that unused and unwanted infrastructure in London.
jdhn 8y ago
Can someone explain why this is a big deal? It makes sense to me that EU agencies wouldn't be stationed outside of the EU, so the fact that they're moving doesn't seem like it's a big deal in the grander Brexit scheme of things. Is this because this is a very prestigious agency?
- setquk 8y ago
  It’s because we need to say “I fucking told you so” every time someone suffers for making a stupid decision like brexit.
  - dijit 8y ago
    I think it's more that people felt quite bitter about being smeared with the tepidly disgusting "project fear" soundbite when criticising what brexit was hoping to achieve before the referendum was held. Expect to hear every time "project fear" was right, because, despite the fact that nobody who voted leave will change their mind it's still incredibly cathartic to hear it.
    - gotocake 8y ago
      People who voted leave probably still feel that way, but given the demographics of the vote many of them will have died, just as many people who were below voting age no longer are.
      - yzrh 8y ago
        The "old people should not be able to vote" argument should die already. If anything, the weight of the vote of someone who's spent his entire life living in a place and paying taxes should be higher.
        dijit 8y ago
        than the people who have to live through the consequences of said vote? What's to stop the older generation soaking up the entire wealth of their generation and the current one? I can very easily answer that: nothing. That's exactly why in the UK (state) pensions come in at more than twice the budget that's used for the NHS and why almost nobody under 30 can afford their own place.
lazyjones 8y ago
I have no idea why such articles get posted to HN. Is the Guardian desperate?
Proven 8y ago
How is that a loss? It's a gain, saving for those who create value hand pay tax.

37 points by cirrus-clouds 8y ago

This PDF from October 2017 lists the suitability of the candidate cities wanting to host the EMA: Amsterdam, Athens, Barcelona, Bonn, Bratislava, Brussels, Bucharest, Copenhagen, Dublin, Helsinki, Lille, Malta, Milan, Sofia, Porto, Stockholm, Vienna, Warsaw, Zagreb http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2017/10/WC500236018.pdf http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2...

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ragebol 8y ago
> Amsterdam won the bid to host the agency in 2017. From the article.

gotocake 8y ago

Even though in this case the jobs went to The Netherlands, the Irish are probably best positioned to benefit from this act of economic suicide England is engaging in. They’re close to the UK and mainland Europe, they’re building a reputation for providing favorable conditions to large companies, and it’s less expensive. Beyond Ireland I think some other EU countries stand to benefit as well. All told, when you consider that it’s not as though England is going to break out in calm stability regardless of how Brexit proceeds, I think the result is going to be an irretrievable loss for England in particular, and the UK in general. I also wouldn’t be shocked if this (and demographic shift) ultimately leads to a reunification in Ireland, and independence passing for Scotland. At that point I guess England and Wales can try to figure out what to do with all of that unused and unwanted infrastructure in London.

jdhn 8y ago

Can someone explain why this is a big deal? It makes sense to me that EU agencies wouldn't be stationed outside of the EU, so the fact that they're moving doesn't seem like it's a big deal in the grander Brexit scheme of things. Is this because this is a very prestigious agency?

setquk 8y ago
It’s because we need to say “I fucking told you so” every time someone suffers for making a stupid decision like brexit.
- dijit 8y ago
  I think it's more that people felt quite bitter about being smeared with the tepidly disgusting "project fear" soundbite when criticising what brexit was hoping to achieve before the referendum was held. Expect to hear every time "project fear" was right, because, despite the fact that nobody who voted leave will change their mind it's still incredibly cathartic to hear it.
  - gotocake 8y ago
    People who voted leave probably still feel that way, but given the demographics of the vote many of them will have died, just as many people who were below voting age no longer are.
    - yzrh 8y ago
      The "old people should not be able to vote" argument should die already. If anything, the weight of the vote of someone who's spent his entire life living in a place and paying taxes should be higher.
      - dijit 8y ago
        than the people who have to live through the consequences of said vote? What's to stop the older generation soaking up the entire wealth of their generation and the current one? I can very easily answer that: nothing. That's exactly why in the UK (state) pensions come in at more than twice the budget that's used for the NHS and why almost nobody under 30 can afford their own place.

lazyjones 8y ago

I have no idea why such articles get posted to HN. Is the Guardian desperate?

Proven 8y ago

How is that a loss? It's a gain, saving for those who create value hand pay tax.