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Also remote devops remotes in SF and NY that require 1 week of travel a month at most are in the 180-200k from what I’ve seen. These are the top salaries I’ve

Also remote devops remotes in SF and NY that require 1 week of travel a month at most are in the 180-200k from what I’ve seen. These are the top salaries I’ve seen if you’re committed to living somewhere inexpensive like I am. This assumes 3 years+ of experience. DevOps is harder experience to get sometimes so just study cloud architecture and engineering which is similar. That whole field lends itself to self-study.

xfitm3 8y ago
Are those top salary ranges from large firms like KPMG?
CyberDildonics 8y ago
What is the difference between 'DevOps' and a system administrator?
- Bucephalus355 8y ago
  I wonder that sometimes too. I came from the sysadmin world. I was always interested in that kind of stuff (like setting up my network at home) and cloud technology made it easy to learn while I had my first job in tech support. Really I’m a “major cloud provider sysadmin” who learned a few DevOps things over a couple of months (Docker, Kubernetes, a good amount of PHP) to take jobs that offered big salaries... Cloud Architect / Engineer roles usually will pay at least 20k less than whatever has DevOps in the title.
- jfoutz 8y ago
  More ruby, less bash. (Somewhat kidding)
- mschuster91 8y ago
  > What is the difference between 'DevOps' and a system administrator? That "DevOps" is supposed to be so easy that an ordinary full-stack developer can pick it up and there is no need for expensive senior system administrators and especially DBAs (="the cloud will handle it for us"). True: when one relies on cloud-provided databases (Amazon RDS), the need for a DBA goes down a bit, especially with a decent support contract from the cloud provider. But the other part, like how to configure a machine for maximum throughput, how to properly implement failover networking, how to do OS upgrades (and especially with Docker containers, how to keep the stuff in the images updated!) and most importantly how to write a Docker image that does not "just work" but is performant, upgradeable and doesn't place stuff around everywhere totally ignoring LSB... this needs Linux administration experience. tl;dr: companies label it "devops" to save money for Linux/DB Admins, but this gamble can really fuck up when you suddenly do need the skillset of a real admin.
- closeparen 8y ago
  With a broad and crude brush: a sysadmin SSHes into a server and runs some commands to fix it. A DevOps submits a pull request against the automation software that broke it in the first place.
- Rapzid 8y ago
  A lot of people have their own opinions on this. Here is what I know in practice from experience. There is DevOps the practice and philosophy(think agile) in which people with software engineering and systems administration experience work on "the same team" to deliver and operate product and/or services. They form a matrix team with complimentary and overlapping skills. Then there is DevOps the team. These are typically also staffed with people who have experience in both developing and operating systems. Typically they will not work so directly with the product developers though, and they will be more focused on developer tooling, system automation, and operations. Finally there is the role DevOps. Most places envision this as a person with both systems and software development experience to work in any of the aforementioned teams. For many they were called "systems engineers" previously and simply go with the title flow. Often they are full-full-stack developers; they also work at the systems/operations level. Some places have DevOps assembly lines though, and they are staffed and run like a technical support call center.. Or a ticket mill.. You get the idea.
uneasy-sausage 8y ago
Any recommendations for someone looking to work towards more cloud experience? Study resources? Certs? Lab concepts? Currently a sys admin in a standard large microsoft server environment with VMware, DHCP, dns and AD as my typical daily tools.
- Rapzid 8y ago
  Learn to program and get an AWS cert. Change jobs to a role that will get you the experience you want. This may seem paradoxical, but no training is like on-the-job training. If you search around for a while you'll find somebody who you can convince that you're capable of doing the job.
  - fjp 8y ago
    God damn it takes a long time to get jobs like that but it's SO rewarding. I'm currently in a job that was essentially obtained through "convince someone you can do it". I think I probably viewed 30k job listings on Indeed and LinkedIn & applied to over 100 before I found the one I'm at. I didn't have the background, experience, or credentials that mean most large places won't even look at your resume, but I found a startup that needed the strange role-straddling niche I was interested in and it's amazing. I like almost every part of my job, and the org is still small enough that I can see my work have a significant impact (good and bad).
pageald 8y ago
How does one find these high paying full time remote jobs? Most that I see with salaries listed on weworkremotely, Stack Overflow Jobs and the like top out around $150k. There are lots of non-remote jobs that pay higher than my current salary, but I don't see that many remote jobs in the $180k to $200k range.

xfitm3 8y ago

Are those top salary ranges from large firms like KPMG?

CyberDildonics 8y ago

What is the difference between 'DevOps' and a system administrator?

Bucephalus355 8y ago
I wonder that sometimes too. I came from the sysadmin world. I was always interested in that kind of stuff (like setting up my network at home) and cloud technology made it easy to learn while I had my first job in tech support. Really I’m a “major cloud provider sysadmin” who learned a few DevOps things over a couple of months (Docker, Kubernetes, a good amount of PHP) to take jobs that offered big salaries... Cloud Architect / Engineer roles usually will pay at least 20k less than whatever has DevOps in the title.
jfoutz 8y ago
More ruby, less bash. (Somewhat kidding)
mschuster91 8y ago
> What is the difference between 'DevOps' and a system administrator? That "DevOps" is supposed to be so easy that an ordinary full-stack developer can pick it up and there is no need for expensive senior system administrators and especially DBAs (="the cloud will handle it for us"). True: when one relies on cloud-provided databases (Amazon RDS), the need for a DBA goes down a bit, especially with a decent support contract from the cloud provider. But the other part, like how to configure a machine for maximum throughput, how to properly implement failover networking, how to do OS upgrades (and especially with Docker containers, how to keep the stuff in the images updated!) and most importantly how to write a Docker image that does not "just work" but is performant, upgradeable and doesn't place stuff around everywhere totally ignoring LSB... this needs Linux administration experience. tl;dr: companies label it "devops" to save money for Linux/DB Admins, but this gamble can really fuck up when you suddenly do need the skillset of a real admin.
closeparen 8y ago
With a broad and crude brush: a sysadmin SSHes into a server and runs some commands to fix it. A DevOps submits a pull request against the automation software that broke it in the first place.
Rapzid 8y ago
A lot of people have their own opinions on this. Here is what I know in practice from experience. There is DevOps the practice and philosophy(think agile) in which people with software engineering and systems administration experience work on "the same team" to deliver and operate product and/or services. They form a matrix team with complimentary and overlapping skills. Then there is DevOps the team. These are typically also staffed with people who have experience in both developing and operating systems. Typically they will not work so directly with the product developers though, and they will be more focused on developer tooling, system automation, and operations. Finally there is the role DevOps. Most places envision this as a person with both systems and software development experience to work in any of the aforementioned teams. For many they were called "systems engineers" previously and simply go with the title flow. Often they are full-full-stack developers; they also work at the systems/operations level. Some places have DevOps assembly lines though, and they are staffed and run like a technical support call center.. Or a ticket mill.. You get the idea.

uneasy-sausage 8y ago

Any recommendations for someone looking to work towards more cloud experience? Study resources? Certs? Lab concepts? Currently a sys admin in a standard large microsoft server environment with VMware, DHCP, dns and AD as my typical daily tools.

Rapzid 8y ago
Learn to program and get an AWS cert. Change jobs to a role that will get you the experience you want. This may seem paradoxical, but no training is like on-the-job training. If you search around for a while you'll find somebody who you can convince that you're capable of doing the job.
- fjp 8y ago
  God damn it takes a long time to get jobs like that but it's SO rewarding. I'm currently in a job that was essentially obtained through "convince someone you can do it". I think I probably viewed 30k job listings on Indeed and LinkedIn & applied to over 100 before I found the one I'm at. I didn't have the background, experience, or credentials that mean most large places won't even look at your resume, but I found a startup that needed the strange role-straddling niche I was interested in and it's amazing. I like almost every part of my job, and the org is still small enough that I can see my work have a significant impact (good and bad).

pageald 8y ago

How does one find these high paying full time remote jobs? Most that I see with salaries listed on weworkremotely, Stack Overflow Jobs and the like top out around $150k. There are lots of non-remote jobs that pay higher than my current salary, but I don't see that many remote jobs in the $180k to $200k range.