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>I want this so bad. My hatred for the automobile grows every day. >We are slaves to the automobile in so many ways. >Sucks that I had to live in the time per
by dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>I want this so bad. My hatred for the automobile grows every day.
>We are slaves to the automobile in so many ways.
>Sucks that I had to live in the time period with them.
Focusing your hatred on inanimate man-made objects does not address the root of the problem (and is probably not healthy). You wouldn't blame crowbars for break-ins (I mean you might, but I hope you don't).
The way forward is to develop superior alternatives (in the same way that the car succeeded the horse) not to increase cost. Increasing cost is zero sum at best. Developing better solutions is a net gain. Also, there's only so much pedestrianization you can do. Unless you turn LA (for example) into Manhatten density wise it is always going to be fundamentally pedestrian unfriendly because most of it was designed around cars. Cities that were designed when people walked everywhere and goods were transported in animal drawn carts are going to be more walk-able. Some amount of individual and private (they are different things) transit will always be necessary (assuming quality of life is to stay the same or increase).
- recursive 8y agoI think I appreciate what you're saying but I don't think the analogy works exactly. How much crowbar marketing do you see in a day?
- coding123 8y agoCrowbars don't need marketing if it's the go-to tool for break ins. The analogy works because it would be like charging $8k for crowbars or having a crowbar property tax that is insanely expensive per year as a way to combat break ins. That doesn't work because people will find a way to break in without crowbars. People will find ways to buy gas at far less than a $1 a mile if you simply raised gas prices (i.e buy teslas). While a tesla would solve the (well let's say offset) the pollution problem, it would do nothing for the space, traffic, noise, safety, etc..
- afiori 8y agowait, that is not the point... crowbars have legitimate uses (the fact that they look like they are designed to feel scary and dangerous does not change that). Should there exist special crowbar licences? > People will find ways to buy gas at far less than a $1 a mile if you simply raised gas prices (i.e buy teslas) gilets jaunes disagree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_movement
- coding123 8y agoI am agreeing with you, lol - it's an analogy that simply raising gas prices to fix the problem is like simply raising the price or taxing the crowbar to solve break-ins - it does not work. Yes I definitely think the yellow vests would similarly be upset as well - again it's not solving the issue.
- afiori 8y agoEnglish is not my mother tongue, but I think you are focusing too much on words: My hatred for the automobile grows every day -> My hatred for how pervasive automobile are in cities and for how they damage city planning grows every day. There, now GP hates a trend in society. For the second part: this is essentially choosing how free you want markets to be (and how much of society you want to be a market). In my opinion better alternatives would be more walkable cities and better public transports, which are helped by zone-based auto ban. Regarding raising the price of gasoline I agree that it would be a terrible choice, it would impact the least the cities and the most industrial transports and rural areas (the only sectors were car/trucks are truly needed)
- afiori 8y agoJust for clarification here is a nice ted talk about cities and walkability https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cL5Nud8d7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cL5Nud8d7w