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There is a similarity and Americans can be hypocritical, however the Chinese-style oversight is more dangerous. Big tech companies cannot prevent you from trav

There is a similarity and Americans can be hypocritical, however the Chinese-style oversight is more dangerous. Big tech companies cannot prevent you from traveling, living at certain places, and buying stuff. The Chinese system can. To me, the Chinese social credit system is far more terrifying than Facebook owning all of my pictures and social data.

mAEStro-paNDa 8y ago
I've posted this article before, in response to a similar comment. This system isn't exactly what you might think. I greatly encourage further discussion or criticism having to do with this piece and this system in general: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social...
- LMYahooTFY 8y ago
  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding a lot here? The article title flat-out says the "social credit score isn't real", and then outlines in a nuanced way exactly how it is real. Sure, there is plenty of negative rhetoric that surrounds the topic, but at best what I can understand here is that there is no (verified) single aggregate score being leveraged against anyone...? I'm not sure how this distinction is meaningful?
throwaway-fut 8y ago
Amazon can ban your account. You can get put on the No Fly list. Not to mention the Drone Strike List, > ...former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden said in a public debate, “We kill people based on metadata.” > According to multiple reports and leaks, death-by-metadata could be triggered, without even knowing the target’s name, if too many derogatory checks appear on their profile. “Armed military aged males” exhibiting suspicious behavior in the wrong place can become targets, as can someone “seen to be giving out orders.” Such mathematics-based assassinations have come to be known as “signature strikes.” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-to-survive-americas-kill-list-699334/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-...
- pwaivers 8y ago
  Amazon banning your account is not the same thing. They don't have a monopoly on retail (despite what a lot of people think). The No Fly list is an anti-terrorism precaution and very controversial. The Drone Strike List seems bad, but it's a completely different thing. It's a military tactic, not a social credit system.

mAEStro-paNDa 8y ago

I've posted this article before, in response to a similar comment. This system isn't exactly what you might think. I greatly encourage further discussion or criticism having to do with this piece and this system in general: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social...

LMYahooTFY 8y ago
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding a lot here? The article title flat-out says the "social credit score isn't real", and then outlines in a nuanced way exactly how it is real. Sure, there is plenty of negative rhetoric that surrounds the topic, but at best what I can understand here is that there is no (verified) single aggregate score being leveraged against anyone...? I'm not sure how this distinction is meaningful?

throwaway-fut 8y ago

Amazon can ban your account. You can get put on the No Fly list. Not to mention the Drone Strike List, > ...former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden said in a public debate, “We kill people based on metadata.” > According to multiple reports and leaks, death-by-metadata could be triggered, without even knowing the target’s name, if too many derogatory checks appear on their profile. “Armed military aged males” exhibiting suspicious behavior in the wrong place can become targets, as can someone “seen to be giving out orders.” Such mathematics-based assassinations have come to be known as “signature strikes.” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-to-survive-americas-kill-list-699334/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-...

pwaivers 8y ago
Amazon banning your account is not the same thing. They don't have a monopoly on retail (despite what a lot of people think). The No Fly list is an anti-terrorism precaution and very controversial. The Drone Strike List seems bad, but it's a completely different thing. It's a military tactic, not a social credit system.